{"podcast":{"title":"Danny Jones Podcast","slug":"danny-jones-podcast-462898","podcast_index_feed_id":462898,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/QCD2752074976","website_url":"https://www.daylightmedia.com","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/3458dfb4-3eff-11ef-98f1-ef379edc942c/image/50c9241ef432988e46fee20837d045c7.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Danny Jones","episode_count":432,"summary":"Danny’s quest to get smarter.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-19T06:18:58.127034+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/danny-jones-podcast-462898"},"episode":{"title":"#415 - “There Were 23 of Us” Area 51 Officer Finally Comes Clean | TD Barnes","slug":"415-there-were-23-of-us-area-51-officer-finally-comes-clean-td-barnes","published_at":"2026-07-20T17:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/danny-jones-podcast-462898/415-there-were-23-of-us-area-51-officer-finally-comes-clean-td-barnes","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/danny-jones-podcast-462898","url":"https://pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/433/claritaspod.com/measure/traffic.megaphone.fm/QCD8440550348.mp3","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/433/claritaspod.com/measure/traffic.megaphone.fm/QCD8440550348.mp3","summary":"Watch every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones TD Barnes is a former field engineer at NASA who also served in Special Projects at Area 51. His engineering work extended to the X-15, XB-70, lifting bodies, and lunar landing vehicles, as well as NASA's NERVA nuclear rocket project at Jackass Flats, Nevada. SPONSORS https://quo.com/danny - Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months. https://www.amentara.com/go/dj - Use code DJP22 for 22% off your first order. https://livemomentous.com - Use code DANNY for up to 35% off your entire first order. https://theperfectjean.nyc/danny15 - Use code DANNY15 for 15% off The Perfect Jean. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off. EPISODE LINKS (TD's new book) Secret Skies: https://a.co/d/06V47gN8 FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Tracking high-speed aircraft for NASA 05:01 - Newly declassified 1960s CIA projects 07:38 - CIA operated Area 51 in secret for 20 years 13:48 - Operation Northwoods 16:50 - Attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro 19:58 - Getting recruited to work at Area 51 29:53 - Aircraft tests at Area 51 36:47 - Early days of Area 51 mystery 46:26 - Sheep dipping CIA recruitment tactic 51:24 - What we're still using U2 aircraft for 54:20 - Origin of UFO myths at Area 51 57:47 - Why Bob Lazar's Area 51 story can't be real 01:01:31 - Truth about S4 \"Site 4\" 01:02:45 - Annie Jacobsen is persona non grata 01:09:09 - Pilot reports of UAPs 01:17:28 - Plasma, anti-gravity & acoustic radar 01:21:26 - TD doesn't believe in non-human entities 01:31:16 - ECMs and ECCMs 01:38:07 - TD's work with the DIA 01:39:59 - Project Redlight 01:44:01 - Where the new \"Area 51\" is located 01:46:19 - The X-15 p…","meta_description":"Watch every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones TD Barnes is a former field engineer at NASA who also served in Specia…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":8582,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/danny-jones-podcast-462898/episodes/415-there-were-23-of-us-area-51-officer-finally-comes-clean-td-barnes/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/danny-jones-podcast-462898/415-there-were-23-of-us-area-51-officer-finally-comes-clean-td-barnes.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}