{"podcast":{"title":"DangerMouth: The Innovation Station","slug":"dangermouth-the-innovation-station-6921908","podcast_index_feed_id":6921908,"rss_url":"https://feed.podbean.com/bathmikec/feed.xml","website_url":"https://bathmikec.podbean.com","image_url":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/12023614/ShowLogo72dpiNEW2_i7xtah.png","author":"Mike Conroy","episode_count":68,"summary":"The podcast that takes you on the long and dangerous journey from the siloed foothills of inventing things to the yawning abyss of reinventing society. Each week we take a subject related to innovation and set off on a verbal stroll to see what wonders unfold.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dangermouth-the-innovation-station-6921908"},"episode":{"title":"S3E14: The Value Equation with Per Lindstedt","slug":"s3e14-the-value-equation-with-per-lindstedt","published_at":"2026-04-07T08:55:02+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dangermouth-the-innovation-station-6921908/s3e14-the-value-equation-with-per-lindstedt","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dangermouth-the-innovation-station-6921908","url":"https://bathmikec.podbean.com/e/s3e14-the-value-equation-with-per-lindstedt/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/3x4gd7yiq8t8kkpq/PerAudioValueModel.mp3","summary":"This is an episode of the Danger Mouth podcast, hosted by Darrell Mann, Mike Conroy, and Shauna, featuring Swedish guest Per Lindstedt, co-author of The Value Model. The Value Model defines value as a ratio — satisfaction of customer needs divided by use of customer resources. Per breaks this into 6 strategic levers: three to increase satisfaction (solve an undiscovered problem, improve performance, enhance feelings/experience) and three to reduce resource consumption (time, money, effort). The iPhone is used throughout as the prime example of a product with a sky-high ratio — and the App Store as an accidental masterstroke that Jobs initially resisted. The conversation broadens into organisational innovation and S-curves: why companies near the peak of one S-curve become complacent, why very few (perhaps 10% in Europe) survive the jump to the next, and whether it's sometimes healthier to simply let companies die. Nokia's inability to abandon its Symbian OS is the cautionary tale; a Chinese manufacturer pivoting from bread-makers to LEDs in eight weeks is the counter-example. The final third focuses on Per's AI tool (built using Lovable), which takes messy requirement specifications and sorts them into five information domains — customers, needs, functions, solutions, and processes — flagging what's actually a customer need versus a disguised technical solution. This is positioned as a scalable version of the consultancy work Per spent decades doing manually.","meta_description":"This is an episode of the Danger Mouth podcast, hosted by Darrell Mann, Mike Conroy, and Shauna, featuring Swedish guest Per Lindstedt, co-author of The V…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4214,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/dangermouth-the-innovation-station-6921908/episodes/s3e14-the-value-equation-with-per-lindstedt/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dangermouth-the-innovation-station-6921908/s3e14-the-value-equation-with-per-lindstedt.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}