{"podcast":{"title":"Damn Good Interior Designer","slug":"damn-good-interior-designer-6605086","podcast_index_feed_id":6605086,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/damngoodinteriordesigner/","website_url":"HTTPS://damngooddesigner.com","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/0e4d0213-d63d-4b58-a390-3bc01afb09ad/2026-PODCAST-COVER-ART.jpg","author":"Cheryl Kees Clendenon and Liz Lapan","episode_count":80,"summary":"Join Cheryl Kees Clendenon and Liz Lapan, the dynamic duo behind the visionary and integrator balancing all the moving parts of a full service interior design firm in their no-nonsense and thought-provoking podcast, the Damn Good Designer. Each episode is full of damn good truths and real talk as they share invaluable insights on how to run and build a successful business while challenging the norms, the industry, each other and YOU. Emphasizing a business-savvy approach, Cheryl and Liz take you on a roller coaster of discovery, considering success from a different lens, breaking free from groupthink, and encouraging you to embrace your own authentic designer self. There is not much they will not say “out loud”. In this podcast, you'll find no room for conformity as they shatter the mold of one-size-fits-all business practices. Cheryl's fearless attitude showcases a refusal to follow the conventional wisdom, ask “why” repeatedly and reject what no longer makes sense in today’s world. If you're seeking a dose of inspiration, a splash of unconventional wisdom, and a refreshing perspective on the entrepreneurial world, the Damn Good Designer is your go-to podcast. Tune in and let Che…","last_synced_at":"2026-06-16T16:19:24.445672+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/damn-good-interior-designer-6605086"},"episode":{"title":"Season 3 Ep 66: When Good People are in the Wrong Roles","slug":"season-3-ep-66-when-good-people-are-in-the-wrong-roles","published_at":"2026-02-10T06:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/damn-good-interior-designer-6605086/season-3-ep-66-when-good-people-are-in-the-wrong-roles","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/damn-good-interior-designer-6605086","url":"HTTPS://damngooddesigner.com","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1d5fe875-f557-4780-8c4a-6f9464751f05.mp3","summary":"Hiring is one of the most expensive lessons a design firm will ever lear and it’s rarely because the person was “bad.” In this episode, Cheryl and Liz unpack the real reason team hires go sideways: confusing likability with fit, and potential with performance. This is real deal what is happening in our firm now and were owning up to our mistakes as we have been up to our eyeballs in the hiring process. Cheryl walks through the hard truth most firm owners avoid where sometimes the issue isn’t the person, it’s the role. And when you try to force someone into a position that doesn’t match how they think, work, or manage details, everyone loses. This episodes covers why resumes don’t tell you what actually matters, how hope clouds judgment during hiring, and why thinking in 90-day windows protects your business, your team, and your sanity. Have a question-- click here to ask us. RESOURCE LINKS: Damn Good Workshops - Website First workshop of 2026 starts January 14! These workshops are 2–3 hour deep dives (some more than one day) built for creative entrepreneurs who want to lead with confidence, price with authority, and grow with intention. We created this workshop series with tracks that cover the challenges we know designers face: pricing, sales, client relationships, project management, marketing, and leadership. Each workshop is designed to stand alone — so you can choose the topics that matter most right now — while still connecting to the bigger picture of building a profitable, sustainable design business. Damn Good Designer - Damn Good Designer - Website The best multi-faceted business coaching for Interior designers—seriously. This is not some wham-bam glamathon; It is the real deal you have been looking for and what is missing from the business coaching marketpla…","meta_description":"Hiring is one of the most expensive lessons a design firm will ever lear and it’s rarely because the person was “bad.” In this episode, Cheryl and Liz unp…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3210,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/damn-good-interior-designer-6605086/episodes/season-3-ep-66-when-good-people-are-in-the-wrong-roles/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/damn-good-interior-designer-6605086/season-3-ep-66-when-good-people-are-in-the-wrong-roles.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}