{"podcast":{"title":"Damn Good Interior Designer","slug":"damn-good-interior-designer-6605086","podcast_index_feed_id":6605086,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/damngoodinteriordesigner/","website_url":"HTTPS://damngooddesigner.com","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/0e4d0213-d63d-4b58-a390-3bc01afb09ad/2026-PODCAST-COVER-ART.jpg","author":"Cheryl Kees Clendenon and Liz Lapan","episode_count":80,"summary":"Join Cheryl Kees Clendenon and Liz Lapan, the dynamic duo behind the visionary and integrator balancing all the moving parts of a full service interior design firm in their no-nonsense and thought-provoking podcast, the Damn Good Designer. Each episode is full of damn good truths and real talk as they share invaluable insights on how to run and build a successful business while challenging the norms, the industry, each other and YOU. Emphasizing a business-savvy approach, Cheryl and Liz take you on a roller coaster of discovery, considering success from a different lens, breaking free from groupthink, and encouraging you to embrace your own authentic designer self. There is not much they will not say “out loud”. In this podcast, you'll find no room for conformity as they shatter the mold of one-size-fits-all business practices. Cheryl's fearless attitude showcases a refusal to follow the conventional wisdom, ask “why” repeatedly and reject what no longer makes sense in today’s world. If you're seeking a dose of inspiration, a splash of unconventional wisdom, and a refreshing perspective on the entrepreneurial world, the Damn Good Designer is your go-to podcast. Tune in and let Che…","last_synced_at":"2026-06-16T16:19:24.445672+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/damn-good-interior-designer-6605086"},"episode":{"title":"Season 3 Ep 59: If you confuse them, you lose them. Period.","slug":"season-3-ep-59-if-you-confuse-them-you-lose-them-period","published_at":"2025-11-17T16:49:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/damn-good-interior-designer-6605086/season-3-ep-59-if-you-confuse-them-you-lose-them-period","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/damn-good-interior-designer-6605086","url":"HTTPS://damngooddesigner.com","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4433bda1-0730-4c1f-a5ae-1e794bdc8da3.mp3","summary":"The confusion you accidentally create long before the proposal ever hits your clients inbox is the real reason clients hesitate. Your price is not the problem. You can unintentionally create confusion through discovery calls, the way you talk about freight, receiving, vendors, timelines, your value, etc. This causes your clients to be constantly collecting clues about whether saying yes to you feels SAFE or SCARY. Learn how your language, tone, and timing shape the emotional architecture your clients make decisions in, and why being clear is your most powerful sales tool. Have a question-- click here to ask us. Loved this episode? Click here to leave a 5⭐ review RESOURCE LINKS: Damn Good Workshops - Website View our upcoming workshops! These workshops are 2–3 hour deep dives (some more than one day) built for creative entrepreneurs who want to lead with confidence, price with authority, and grow with intention. We created this workshop series with tracks that cover the challenges we know designers face: pricing, sales, client relationships, project management, marketing, and leadership. Each workshop is designed to stand alone — so you can choose the topics that matter most right now — while still connecting to the bigger picture of building a profitable, sustainable design business. Damn Good Designer - Damn Good Designer - Website The best multi-faceted business coaching for Interior designers—seriously. This is not some wham-bam glamathon; It is the real deal you have been looking for and what is missing from the business coaching marketplace today. The Paradigm Quick Start - 3 Month Custom Coaching Program The Paradigm Shift - 6 Month Custom Coaching Program The Paradigm Intensive - 12 Month One on One Immersive Custom Business Coaching Join our FREE Facebook Group…","meta_description":"The confusion you accidentally create long before the proposal ever hits your clients inbox is the real reason clients hesitate. Your price is not the pro…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3302,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/damn-good-interior-designer-6605086/episodes/season-3-ep-59-if-you-confuse-them-you-lose-them-period/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/damn-good-interior-designer-6605086/season-3-ep-59-if-you-confuse-them-you-lose-them-period.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}