{"podcast":{"title":"Crisis What Crisis with Andy Coulson","slug":"crisis-what-crisis-with-andy-coulson-293543","podcast_index_feed_id":293543,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/crisis-what-crisis/","website_url":"http://www.crisiswhatcrisis.com","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/b7ebba84-a3f9-4e06-a38c-a06214396d3f/AP-CC-Insta.jpg","author":"Andy Coulson","episode_count":210,"summary":"Hard-earned lessons from people who've faced the worst and come back stronger. Hosted by Andy Coulson. Follow for weekly insights into the art of the rebuild. Crisis What Crisis? is powered by Kingsley Napley — the lawyers you want in your corner when the pressure is on. Visit kingsleynapley.co.uk","last_synced_at":"2026-06-09T18:21:32.750225+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/crisis-what-crisis-with-andy-coulson-293543"},"episode":{"title":"SIR TREVOR PHILLIPS: Why we are WRONG about mental illness","slug":"sir-trevor-phillips-why-we-are-wrong-about-mental-illness","published_at":"2026-02-17T07:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/crisis-what-crisis-with-andy-coulson-293543/sir-trevor-phillips-why-we-are-wrong-about-mental-illness","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/crisis-what-crisis-with-andy-coulson-293543","url":"http://www.crisiswhatcrisis.com","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8be66777-24c2-42ee-9d97-c59f4996be30.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=d55f2648-7b9e-4e35-9ce1-0a0938cc6579&aw_0_1st.episodeid=8be66777-24c2-42ee-9d97-c59f4996be30","summary":"After a 22-year battle with anorexia, Sir Trevor Phillips' daughter Sushila died aged 36 in April 2021. Now he's calling for a radical shift in how we talk about mental illness – and he's not holding back. The broadcaster, writer, and equality campaigner joins Crisis What Crisis? to explain why banning social media for under-16s is \"preposterous,\" why celebrity \"mental health struggles\" make him furious, and what the \"seventh circle of hell\" really looks like in an eating disorder ward. Trevor also talks to us about his remarkable upbringing and career across media, business and politics - all of it etched with resilience. ⚠️ Please note: This episode contains frank discussions of anorexia, eating disorders, mental illness, and grief that some listeners may find distressing. WHAT YOU’LL HEAR: The brutal reality of a 22-year battle with severe anorexia Why mental illness and sadness are NOT the same thing Trevor's message to celebrities who conflate difficulty with trauma: \"F*** off\" Why removing friction from children's lives destroys resilience LESSONS YOU'LL LEARN: Separate mental illness from sadness: stop confusing clinical illness with being \"a bit fed up\" Teach resilience, don't remove pain: you can't take friction out of the human condition The good guys can win: but you have to fight for it Know what you cannot do: in crisis, understand your limitations Light a candle: don't curse the darkness IN THIS EPISODE: 00:00 – Introduction: Sir Trevor Phillips' remarkable life 21:23 – What Britain should learn from its racial progress 27:10 – What real resilience looks like in a crisis 31:26 – The Leadership Lesson: knowing what you can't do 33:06 – Shushila: A 22-year battle with anorexia 44:39 – How grief changed everything 49:27 – Mental Illness vs. Feeling Sad: \"sto…","meta_description":"After a 22-year battle with anorexia, Sir Trevor Phillips' daughter Sushila died aged 36 in April 2021. Now he's calling for a radical shift in how we tal…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4070,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/crisis-what-crisis-with-andy-coulson-293543/episodes/sir-trevor-phillips-why-we-are-wrong-about-mental-illness/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/crisis-what-crisis-with-andy-coulson-293543/sir-trevor-phillips-why-we-are-wrong-about-mental-illness.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}