{"podcast":{"title":"Created Creative Podcast","slug":"created-creative-podcast-6694810","podcast_index_feed_id":6694810,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/created-creative-podcast/","website_url":"https://created-creative-podcast.captivate.fm","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/6745e0b9-4133-4674-9a4f-cf959f39741c/Ioc-3v9JIECL_-KM5OZlLuua.png","author":"Ruth Hetland and Dawn Trautman","episode_count":128,"summary":"Embark on a journey with Ruth, creator of the wildly popular ConseCrate subscription box for ministers, and Dawn, veteran life coach to leaders to churches and non-profits through her business Big Picture Big Purpose, as they navigate the labyrinth of creativity on \"Created Creative.\" Together, these creative entrepreneurs delve into the universal aspects of the creative life. From the restlessness within that compels us to build something new, whether it's a Lego castle or a life-altering venture, they celebrate the beauty and sanctity of these creative stirrings. Join them in exploring the transformative power of paying attention to that inner restlessness and making space for the growth of new, beautiful things. Welcome to a podcast that recognizes and celebrates how we are all \"Created Creative.\"","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/created-creative-podcast-6694810"},"episode":{"title":"Ep 108 - When You Outgrow the Box You Were Thriving In: An Interview with Dale Harris","slug":"ep-108-when-you-outgrow-the-box-you-were-thriving-in-an-interview-with-dale-harris","published_at":"2025-12-15T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/created-creative-podcast-6694810/ep-108-when-you-outgrow-the-box-you-were-thriving-in-an-interview-with-dale-harris","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/created-creative-podcast-6694810","url":"https://createdcreativepodcast.com","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/77673b6e-c583-445d-8add-d5558fe9d10b.mp3","summary":"Sometimes you have to follow where your calling actually leads, not where people expect it to go. Dawn and Ruth sit down with Dale Harris. He’s a former pastor, current psychotherapy student, and the kind of creative who refuses to pick just one lane. Dale's been making Three Minute Theology videos, writing novels and poetry, releasing music albums, and now? He's transitioning from ministry into mental health work because sometimes you have to follow where your calling actually leads, not where people expect it to go. Here's what makes this conversation so good: Dale gets real about the challenges of being a creative person in a church setting (spoiler: it's complicated), why he's shifting his focus to therapy and writing, and what it's like to integrate all these different pieces of who you are when the world keeps asking you to just be one thing. They're diving into Van Gogh (because art and faith have always been tangled up together), the intersection of music and mental health, the practical side of promoting your creative work without feeling like a fraud, and how to actually overcome imposter syndrome when you're doing something new. This episode is for anyone who's ever felt too creative for the church, too spiritual for the art world, or like they're supposed to stay in the box everyone else built for them. Dale's proof that you don't have to. LINKS: Learn more about Dawn's Group Coaching Opportunity for those starting a side business - https://bigpicturebigpurpose.lpages.co/discern-by-doing-for-business/ Find a gift for your favorite minister: consecratebox.com 00:26 Christmas Activities and Traditions 01:04 Sing-Along and Community Events 02:52 Winter Challenges and Festivities 05:50 Interview with Dale Harris 07:33 Dale Harris: From Ministry to Psychotherapy…","meta_description":"Sometimes you have to follow where your calling actually leads, not where people expect it to go. Dawn and Ruth sit down with Dale Harris. He’s a former p…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2363,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/created-creative-podcast-6694810/episodes/ep-108-when-you-outgrow-the-box-you-were-thriving-in-an-interview-with-dale-harris/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/created-creative-podcast-6694810/ep-108-when-you-outgrow-the-box-you-were-thriving-in-an-interview-with-dale-harris.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}