{"podcast":{"title":"Create or Destroy: Reimagining Marketing with Seth Matlins","slug":"create-or-destroy-reimagining-marketing-with-seth-matlins-7854347","podcast_index_feed_id":7854347,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/VMP2018586217","website_url":null,"image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/51e3caa8-1e2d-11f1-a41d-7304484c8df1/image/2adb51d4e3ebbc2b769a22f08a4e09aa.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Vox Media","episode_count":18,"summary":"Each week, marketing maestro Seth Matlins is joined by the most influential thinkers across business and culture for unvarnished, actionable, and frequently irreverent conversations on the forces that shape how value is either created or destroyed. From product decisions, supply chain, and capital allocation, to cultural and economic shifts, competitive dynamics, technological disruptions, and internal structure – each one is a marketing force, affecting whether value is created or not, and whether a customer stays or goes. It's a business show. It's a marketing show. Create or Destroy is the show that argues they’ve always been the same thing. From the Vox Media Podcast Network and the Wisdomous Company.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-16T00:20:59.228466+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/create-or-destroy-reimagining-marketing-with-seth-matlins-7854347"},"episode":{"title":"Musa Tariq on How Short-Term Growth Can Disguise Bad Strategy","slug":"musa-tariq-on-how-short-term-growth-can-disguise-bad-strategy","published_at":"2026-08-25T10:02:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/create-or-destroy-reimagining-marketing-with-seth-matlins-7854347/musa-tariq-on-how-short-term-growth-can-disguise-bad-strategy","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/create-or-destroy-reimagining-marketing-with-seth-matlins-7854347","url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/257/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2972807562.mp3","audio_url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/257/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2972807562.mp3","summary":"Early in his career as a social media coordinator at Burberry, Musa Tariq spent six figures to livestream a 2008 Burberry fashion show that, despite hopes of reaching one million viewers,  delivered only 673. While it looked (and felt) like a failure and the end of his job, Burberry CEO Angela Ahrendts recognized it as a first of its kind that needed time to grow.  For him, this was a defining lesson in resisting short-termism that’s guided his work and career from Nike, Ford, Apple, and Airbnb, to his tenure as CMO of GoFundMe. Now as co-founder of the consultancy Science and Story, he is working to bridge one of the most expensive divides in business: the one between brand and business strategy. Create or Destroy: Reimagining Marketing with Seth Matlins is produced by The Wisdomous Company and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Follow the podcast on Instagram / TikTok: @createordestroypod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices","meta_description":"Early in his career as a social media coordinator at Burberry, Musa Tariq spent six figures to livestream a 2008 Burberry fashion show that, despite hopes…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4735,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/create-or-destroy-reimagining-marketing-with-seth-matlins-7854347/episodes/musa-tariq-on-how-short-term-growth-can-disguise-bad-strategy/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/create-or-destroy-reimagining-marketing-with-seth-matlins-7854347/musa-tariq-on-how-short-term-growth-can-disguise-bad-strategy.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}