{"podcast":{"title":"Continuous Agitation","slug":"continuous-agitation-7876047","podcast_index_feed_id":7876047,"rss_url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting/Y3R6y9MJ.rss","website_url":"https://riverside.com","image_url":"https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/89f8cf62-7aed-4422-ab61-a3fc6ce7878a/logos/d685b5f2-b05e-43cb-ba9e-bf6ca5c6a515.jpeg","author":"Jay Fram and Bill Sawalich","episode_count":7,"summary":"Continuous Agitation is two working photographers with decades of experience still struggling to figure it out. Jay Fram and Bill Sawalich talk about what’s working, what isn’t, and what the hell is happening to the photo business.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-13T14:20:27.520746+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/continuous-agitation-7876047"},"episode":{"title":"Jay's Big Bid","slug":"jay-s-big-bid","published_at":"2026-07-02T16:32:47+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/continuous-agitation-7876047/jay-s-big-bid","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/continuous-agitation-7876047","url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/f5071a999cfb1264b971c35a94f3ff5ddc3ec9da56f2e71b695064677c7df066/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI2MTBiMTA0Ni00NzhjLTQzNjktOTkzYy1hZjlmNzJkZGRhMzQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4OWY4Y2Y2Mi03YWVkLTQ0MjItYWI2MS1hM2ZjNmNlNzg3OGEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OWQ5NGQ4NGNjNGQxMTczMjY1OTg1YjgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE0NjkzNTQwZjgyYjJjODM3NWQ3NmIzL2pheS1mcmFtcy1zdHVkaW8tY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi03LTJfXzE4LTM1LTMyLm1wMyJ9.mp3","audio_url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/f5071a999cfb1264b971c35a94f3ff5ddc3ec9da56f2e71b695064677c7df066/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI2MTBiMTA0Ni00NzhjLTQzNjktOTkzYy1hZjlmNzJkZGRhMzQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4OWY4Y2Y2Mi03YWVkLTQ0MjItYWI2MS1hM2ZjNmNlNzg3OGEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OWQ5NGQ4NGNjNGQxMTczMjY1OTg1YjgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE0NjkzNTQwZjgyYjJjODM3NWQ3NmIzL2pheS1mcmFtcy1zdHVkaW8tY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi03LTJfXzE4LTM1LTMyLm1wMyJ9.mp3","summary":"We’re on YouTube! Now you can see our big dumb faces: https://youtu.be/gJTkpYIEOp4 This is the place for feedback, suggestions, support, and hate mail. Today: I thought we agreed that big photography jobs were dead. And then a big ol' production plops right on my (Jay's) desk, and I spend a week to ten days gnashing my teeth and crying to Bill about how hard my life is. I'm glad these jobs still exist and I'm glad to even be considered, theoretically. In practice, it's confusing. Are jobs like this still worth striving for, worth building a business around, or are they so rare that chasing them is more of a distraction than an actual strategy? If you shoot two a year, you’ve made it. But in the likely event that you shoot NONE a year, you're f***d. We get into the treatment process (and why I think it shouldn't exist), what a quarter-million-dollar budget looks like once you subtract 40 other people's paychecks, and the cold email that brought a dead job back from purgatory four years later. Bill asks the hard questions. My answers are FINE. Somebody brings up an orange sofa. Did I get the job? Tune in next week. Links: Bill’s Substack about our content future Nick Vedros Lou Bopp Find us: Our big dumb faces on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ContinuousAgitation Write to us: continuousagitation@gmail.com Read Bill's newsletter, Art + Math: artandmath.substack.com Follow Jay: @jayfram / jayfram.com Follow Bill: @sawalich / sawalich.com Rate and review Continuous Agitation on Apple Podcasts — it actually helps.","meta_description":"We’re on YouTube! Now you can see our big dumb faces: https://youtu.be/gJTkpYIEOp4 This is the place for feedback, suggestions, support, and hate mail. To…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3163,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/continuous-agitation-7876047/episodes/jay-s-big-bid/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/continuous-agitation-7876047/jay-s-big-bid.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}