{"podcast":{"title":"CMO School","slug":"cmo-school-7223344","podcast_index_feed_id":7223344,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/cmo-school/","website_url":"https://www.risewithnavi.com/podcast","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/9c842482-fabd-4da8-ad34-d1897a69c049/-FJkFcr1ENonu9kII4Vlvt-b.jpg","author":"Jessica Shirra | Fractional CMO","episode_count":65,"summary":"CMO School is the go-to podcast for marketers and Fractional CMOs ready to step into leadership, own their expertise, and build a career or business that actually works for them. Whether you're looking to elevate your skills, transition into a CMO role, or scale your Fractional business, this podcast delivers strategies, expert insights, and the mindset shifts you need to create a career you love. Hosted by Jess Shirra—a 15+ year marketing leader, Fractional CMO, and founder of Fractional CMO School—this show takes you behind the scenes on what actually works in marketing, business, and leadership. Jess has worked with powerhouse brands and creators like Lululemon, Pottery Barn, Strava, Jenna Kutcher, Lori Harder, and more—and now, she’s sharing those lessons with you. Each episode, we dive into proven strategies, practical insights, and candid conversations on topics like: How to step into leadership as a marketer and own your expertise How to confidently price your services and build a business that supports the life you want What it really takes to succeed as a Fractional CMO How to show up as a CMO for your clients, deliver powerful strategy, and lead teams effectively Lessons…","last_synced_at":"2026-09-22T10:20:38.683196+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cmo-school-7223344"},"episode":{"title":"Thinking About Becoming a Fractional CMO? 5 Fears About the Role (That Aren't Actually True)","slug":"thinking-about-becoming-a-fractional-cmo-5-fears-about-the-role-that-aren-t-actually-true","published_at":"2026-08-18T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cmo-school-7223344/thinking-about-becoming-a-fractional-cmo-5-fears-about-the-role-that-aren-t-actually-true","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cmo-school-7223344","url":"https://www.risewithnavi.com/podcast","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/fc74e4ab-6ae9-40a4-ad59-c340b773cc77.mp3","summary":"Thinking about becoming a Fractional CMO but worried you'll be on Slack all day, stuck in back-to-back meetings, and responsible for absolutely everything? I hear these concerns from marketers all the time. And honestly? Almost every one of them comes from a misunderstanding of what the Fractional CMO role actually is. In this week’s episode, I'm breaking down: The 5 biggest myths that stop great marketers from stepping into the Fractional CMO role Why so many Fractional CMOs end up creating a business that burns them out The difference between being a strategic leader and becoming another member of the marketing team What the role should actually look like inside a client's business And how to build a Fractional CMO business that's sustainable, profitable, and gives you the freedom you were looking for in the first place If you've ever thought, \"I'd love to become a Fractional CMO... but I don't want to be responsible for everything,\" this episode is for you. Ready to take the next step? If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO. 🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 The 5 Biggest Myths About Becoming a Fractional CMO 01:05 Myth #1: You'll Spend All Day in Slack 03:10 Myth #2: You're Responsible for Everything 05:45 Why CMOs Lead Instead of Execute 06:45 Myth #3: Every Client Emergency Is Your Emergency 09:00 Myth #4: You'll Spend All Day in Meetings 11:30 Set Boundaries Before Clients Set Them for You 12:30 Myth #5: Clients Expect You to Do Everything 14:15 Teach Clients How to Work With You 15:35 Build a Fractional CMO…","meta_description":"Thinking about becoming a Fractional CMO but worried you'll be on Slack all day, stuck in back-to-back meetings, and responsible for absolutely everything…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":985,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/cmo-school-7223344/episodes/thinking-about-becoming-a-fractional-cmo-5-fears-about-the-role-that-aren-t-actually-true/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cmo-school-7223344/thinking-about-becoming-a-fractional-cmo-5-fears-about-the-role-that-aren-t-actually-true.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}