{"podcast":{"title":"Cloud Security Podcast","slug":"cloud-security-podcast-612345","podcast_index_feed_id":612345,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10fb9928/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.cloudsecuritypodcast.tv","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/2749242/2749242-1702414932410-4a0a63fceb0f9.jpg","author":"TechRiot.io","episode_count":351,"summary":"Learn Cloud Security in Public Cloud and for AI systems, the unbiased way from CyberSecurity Experts solving challenges at Cloud Scale. We are honest because we are not owned by Cloud Service Provider like AWS, Azure or Google Cloud. We aim to make the community learn Cloud Security through community stories from small - Large organisations solving multi-cloud challenges to diving into specific topics of Cloud Security. We STREAM interviews on Cloud Security Topics every week on Linkedin, YouTube and Twitter with over 150K people tuning in.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-17T08:19:55.930116+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cloud-security-podcast-612345"},"episode":{"title":"AI-First Vulnerability Management: Should CISOs Build or Buy?","slug":"ai-first-vulnerability-management-should-cisos-build-or-buy","published_at":"2025-12-04T17:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cloud-security-podcast-612345/ai-first-vulnerability-management-should-cisos-build-or-buy","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cloud-security-podcast-612345","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/cloudsecuritypodcast/episodes/AI-First-Vulnerability-Management-Should-CISOs-Build-or-Buy-e3bs2v0","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10fb9928/podcast/play/112118176/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-11-4%2F413723263-44100-2-3620a1cacfa38.mp3","summary":"Thinking of building your own AI security tool? In this episode, Santiago Castiñeira, CTO of Maze , breaks down the realities of the "Build vs. Buy" debate for AI-first vulnerability management. While building a prototype script is easy, scaling it into a maintainable, audit-proof system is a massive undertaking requiring specialized skills often missing in security teams. The "RAG drug" relies too heavily on Retrieval-Augmented Generation for precise technical data like version numbers, which often fails . The conversation gets into the architecture required for a true AI-first system, moving beyond simple chatbots to complex multi-agent workflows that can reason about context and risk . We also cover the critical importance of rigorous "evals" over "vibe checks" to ensure AI reliability, the hidden costs of LLM inference at scale, and why well-crafted agents might soon be indistinguishable from super-intelligence . Guest Socials -⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Santiago's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@CloudSecPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - ⁠⁠⁠⁠…","meta_description":"Thinking of building your own AI security tool? In this episode, Santiago Castiñeira, CTO of Maze , breaks down the realities of the \"Build vs. Buy&q…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3690,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/cloud-security-podcast-612345/episodes/ai-first-vulnerability-management-should-cisos-build-or-buy/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cloud-security-podcast-612345/ai-first-vulnerability-management-should-cisos-build-or-buy.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}