{"podcast":{"title":"Close Enough for Jazz","slug":"close-enough-for-jazz-7734034","podcast_index_feed_id":7734034,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/69a7b8282fb50a2e17913fc0","website_url":"https://shows.acast.com/close-enough-for-jazz","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/cover/1772598836323-a8561f62-a4cf-49a5-9010-4c491fee5bb9.jpeg","author":"Birch Grove","episode_count":17,"summary":"Tired of the old jazz paradigm? We call this Close Enough for Jazz because \"Modern-Avant-Garde-Polyrhythmic-Sound-Art\" was too long for the RSS feed. Join Lindsay and Alan Bjorklund (Birch Grove Media) for unfiltered dialogues with the composers and improvisers pushing the boundaries of the modern and avant-garde jazz scene. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-26T02:21:23.377079+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/close-enough-for-jazz-7734034"},"episode":{"title":"Music You Can't Pigeonhole: Danny Sher on Emotion Over the Analytical","slug":"music-you-can-t-pigeonhole-danny-sher-on-emotion-over-the-analytical","published_at":"2026-06-04T13:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/close-enough-for-jazz-7734034/music-you-can-t-pigeonhole-danny-sher-on-emotion-over-the-analytical","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/close-enough-for-jazz-7734034","url":"https://shows.acast.com/close-enough-for-jazz/episodes/music-you-cant-pigeonhole-danny-sher-on-emotion-over-the-ana","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/69a7b8282fb50a2e17913fc0/e/6a20fc6b5ef62e6e7eaa80ed/media.mp3","summary":"Drummer and composer Danny Sher sits down to discuss the tug-of-war between highly intellectualized composition and raw emotion. Danny breaks down his desire to dodge \"accounting jazz\" and write music that forces the audience to feel the rhythm before they can analyze it. Tracing his wild musical evolution, Danny shares hilarious early memories of acting as a \"Dog Star Commander\" mascot for Manchild, getting humbled at early sessions, and watching a young Tyshawn Sorey casually drum in 15. Danny explains his strategy for writing \"jazz disguised as rock\" with Horse Torso, navigating the brutal polyrhythms of Atomic Pigeons, and pivoting from insane technical compositions to the catchy verse-chorus songs that got Crippling Alcoholism signed to The Flenser. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro: Feeling the rhythm before judging the music 00:38 - The \"Dog Star Commander\" mascot in Manchild 05:10 - A humbling session 07:06 - Sitting behind a young Tyshawn Sorey playing in 15 08:48 - Forming Horse Torso and blending dissonance with relatable grooves 13:42 - Discovering the Mathcore Index Podcast and playing Saint Vitus 17:15 - Pivoting from insane technical music to catchy verse-chorus songs 20:39 - Getting signed to The Flenser with Crippling Alcoholism 24:42 - Dodging \"accounting jazz\" and focusing on emotion 26:10 - Navigating the otherworldly polyrhythms of Atomic Pigeons & Shardik 28:07 - Recording with legendary no-wave producer Martin Bisi 30:33 - Peter Apfelbaum's early funk days with Les Claypool 32:36 - Disguising jazz as rock: Writing for Travis Reuter and Andrew Smiley 38:51 - Writing cliches head-on for the hardcore band Unsee 40:04 - Outro: Keeping up with @HorseTorso BIRCH GROVE MEDIA Web: birchgrove.io Follow us: @birch.grove.media on Instagram. Watch on YouTube: yo…","meta_description":"Drummer and composer Danny Sher sits down to discuss the tug-of-war between highly intellectualized composition and raw emotion. Danny breaks down his des…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2438,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/close-enough-for-jazz-7734034/episodes/music-you-can-t-pigeonhole-danny-sher-on-emotion-over-the-analytical/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/close-enough-for-jazz-7734034/music-you-can-t-pigeonhole-danny-sher-on-emotion-over-the-analytical.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}