{"podcast":{"title":"CLOC Talk","slug":"cloc-talk-977401","podcast_index_feed_id":977401,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/cloc/","website_url":"https://cloc.org/podcasts/","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/29759e06-0704-49d5-b041-12218d331c18/4_2mtB-KAT6KM1qIeIYMjvwa.png","author":"Corporate Legal Operations Consortium","episode_count":136,"summary":"Tune in to CLOC Talk every other week to discover thought leaders hailing from corporate law departments, law firms, legal technology enterprises, legal services firms, consulting services providers, and academia. You may just find the meaning of life.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-11T18:17:19.403326+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cloc-talk-977401"},"episode":{"title":"Ingenuity Over Spend: Transforming Legal Ops from the Inside Out","slug":"ingenuity-over-spend-transforming-legal-ops-from-the-inside-out","published_at":"2025-09-11T07:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cloc-talk-977401/ingenuity-over-spend-transforming-legal-ops-from-the-inside-out","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cloc-talk-977401","url":"https://cloc.org/podcasts/","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/964db30e-01d7-4089-b1cf-07b1a4422884.mp3","summary":"Big changes don’t always require big budgets. In this episode, An Trotter, Senior Director of Operations at Hearst, joins hosts Jeremiah Kincannon and Janessa Nelson to share how legal teams can make impactful improvements by maximizing internal resources. From deploying e-signatures at no extra cost to building an in-house CLE program with creative solutions, An breaks down the strategies that help legal ops thrive without overspending. The conversation explores flexibility, creativity, and the power of taking calculated risks, plus the role of strong relationships in driving change. An also brings insights from her background in dance where discipline and adaptability are key to success. If you’re looking for ways to transform legal operations on a budget, this episode is packed with inspiration. Thank you to our 2025 CLOC Global Institute CLOC Talk sponsor, DeepL.","meta_description":"Big changes don’t always require big budgets. In this episode, An Trotter, Senior Director of Operations at Hearst, joins hosts Jeremiah Kincannon and Jan…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1359,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/cloc-talk-977401/episodes/ingenuity-over-spend-transforming-legal-ops-from-the-inside-out/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cloc-talk-977401/ingenuity-over-spend-transforming-legal-ops-from-the-inside-out.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}