{"podcast":{"title":"Clever with Amy Devers","slug":"clever-with-amy-devers-50760","podcast_index_feed_id":50760,"rss_url":"https://rss.acast.com/clever","website_url":"http://www.cleverpodcast.com","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/61b7709a16956261f5e950ae/1781540192806-b43eb219-7c56-4256-a9ea-0aa70f8e0e59.jpeg","author":"Amy Devers","episode_count":352,"summary":"Clever is an award-winning, independent podcast that offers a window into the humanity behind the design of the world around us. In each episode, designer Amy Devers has candid and revealing conversations with the visionaries, culture-makers, and creative forces who shape our world and inform our society. Through a disarming mix of raw candor and honest shop-talk, Clever peels back the layers to unearth the gritty, authentic and sometimes surprising details of their creative paths. Clever Confidential is Clever’s offshoot series where we dig into the lesser told stories of the darker side of design; the shadowy, sometimes sordid, tales hiding under a glossy top coat of respectable legacy. Visit our website: cleverpodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-16T14:20:04.844805+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/clever-with-amy-devers-50760"},"episode":{"title":"Ep. 56: Jerry Helling [encore]","slug":"ep-56-jerry-helling-encore","published_at":"2026-05-12T04:01:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/clever-with-amy-devers-50760/ep-56-jerry-helling-encore","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/clever-with-amy-devers-50760","url":"https://www.cleverpodcast.com/blog/ep-56-jerry-helling","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/clever/e/69fe32c02ba0ef2ccaf66b2b/media.mp3","summary":"It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring and revisiting some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Our guests have continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since we had our initial conversations, be sure to subscribe to our Substack to catch up on some of their recent news! Ep. 56: Jerry Helling - President and Creative Director of Bernhardt Design, Jerry Helling, grew up on a ranch in a remote town with 11 people in his graduating class before venturing to USC and a potential career in Hollywood. A personal epiphany combined with serendipity rerouted him into the furniture business, resulting in a long and distinguished career as a keen mentor of talent, a champion of originality, a risk-taking, needle-moving industry voice, and a major benefactor of international design. Plus, he’s really nice! Images and more from Jerry Helling on our website! Clever is hosted & produced by Amy Devers , with editing by Mark Zurawinski, production assistance from Ilana Nevins and Anouchka Stephan, and music by El Ten Eleven . SUBSCRIBE - listen to Clever on any podcast app! SIGN UP - for our Substack for news, bonus content, new episode alerts VISIT - cleverpodcast.com for transcripts, images, and 200+ more episodes SAY HI! - on Instagram & LinkedIn @cleverpodcast @amydevers Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring and revisiting some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Our guests have c…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3823,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/clever-with-amy-devers-50760/episodes/ep-56-jerry-helling-encore/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/clever-with-amy-devers-50760/ep-56-jerry-helling-encore.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}