{"podcast":{"title":"Clever with Amy Devers","slug":"clever-with-amy-devers-50760","podcast_index_feed_id":50760,"rss_url":"https://rss.acast.com/clever","website_url":"http://www.cleverpodcast.com","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/61b7709a16956261f5e950ae/1781540192806-b43eb219-7c56-4256-a9ea-0aa70f8e0e59.jpeg","author":"Amy Devers","episode_count":352,"summary":"Clever is an award-winning, independent podcast that offers a window into the humanity behind the design of the world around us. In each episode, designer Amy Devers has candid and revealing conversations with the visionaries, culture-makers, and creative forces who shape our world and inform our society. Through a disarming mix of raw candor and honest shop-talk, Clever peels back the layers to unearth the gritty, authentic and sometimes surprising details of their creative paths. Clever Confidential is Clever’s offshoot series where we dig into the lesser told stories of the darker side of design; the shadowy, sometimes sordid, tales hiding under a glossy top coat of respectable legacy. Visit our website: cleverpodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-16T14:20:04.844805+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/clever-with-amy-devers-50760"},"episode":{"title":"Ep. 234: From Band to CCO: Laura Stein’s Road to Creative Leadership","slug":"ep-234-from-band-to-cco-laura-stein-s-road-to-creative-leadership","published_at":"2026-01-20T05:01:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/clever-with-amy-devers-50760/ep-234-from-band-to-cco-laura-stein-s-road-to-creative-leadership","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/clever-with-amy-devers-50760","url":"https://www.cleverpodcast.com/blog/laura-stein-bruce-mau-design-band-cco-creative-leadership","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/clever/e/696e628036ab0b5268b10249/media.mp3","summary":"Chief Creative Officer of Bruce Mau Design, Laura Stein grew up on Nun’s Island outside of Montreal, a near utopia where kids never had to cross the street. Her psychiatrist father and museum-involved mother cultivated curiosity about emotions, critical thinking, and the arts. A move to Texas in her teens resulted in quite a culture shock. Laura found an innate knack for peer reviews and analysis, which became a strength throughout the rest of her academic and professional career. Originally graduating with a degree in English, she returned to school to study art, where she found not only her community, but her band mates. From there, it was a wild ride - record signing (Sub Pop,) touring, and navigating all the ups and downs of being in a girl band in the ‘90s – the ultimate creative boot camp. Now in leadership at Bruce Mau Design, she’s deploying the wisdom garnered from all these experiences to build a culture focused on keeping possibility alive.  Images and more from Laura Stein on our website! Special thanks to our sponsor! Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale. Clever is hosted & produced by Amy Devers , with editing by Mark Zurawinski, production assistance from Ilana Nevins and Anouchka Stephan, and music by El Ten Eleven . SUBSCRIBE - listen to Clever on any podcast app! SIGN UP - for our Substack for news, bonus content, new episode alerts VISIT - cleverpodcast.com for transcripts, images, and 200+ more episodes SAY HI! - on Instagram & LinkedIn @cleverpodcast @amydevers Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"Chief Creative Officer of Bruce Mau Design, Laura Stein grew up on Nun’s Island outside of Montreal, a near utopia where kids never had to cross the stree…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3309,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/clever-with-amy-devers-50760/episodes/ep-234-from-band-to-cco-laura-stein-s-road-to-creative-leadership/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/clever-with-amy-devers-50760/ep-234-from-band-to-cco-laura-stein-s-road-to-creative-leadership.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}