{"podcast":{"title":"Circling The Drain","slug":"circling-the-drain-7467223","podcast_index_feed_id":7467223,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/circling-the-drain","website_url":null,"image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/NiGCvDCBB0o5e5WUl84LvEXmw9YH8c-SS6_-KYxT-e8/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS80ZDgz/NDgxODNlYjBlNzky/MzU1NWY1YmZjM2Jj/NDlkNS5wbmc.jpg","author":"John E. Bozeman","episode_count":41,"summary":"Circling The Drain is a show about the current state of the music and radio businesses as well as culture in general! Hosted by John E. Bozeman and Jay Harper along with Jim McCarthy as Co-Host/Executive Producer. John has had a storied career in music and talk radio, most notably as the Executive Producer for the late and legendary Phil Valentine. Jay also has has a long career in radio as Announcer, Play-by-Play, Voice and On-Camera Actor. He was also an Artist Rep for MCA records. Jim McCarthy ALSO has had a tremendous career in radio since 1996 and has since brought his consulting/producing skillset to the podcast world. Circling the Drain is produced by ItsYourShow.co","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/circling-the-drain-7467223"},"episode":{"title":"Today’s State of Radio: Losing the Industry, Finding the Podcast :: Ep 32 Circling the Drain Podcast","slug":"today-s-state-of-radio-losing-the-industry-finding-the-podcast-ep-32-circling-the-drain-podcast","published_at":"2026-04-01T10:15:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/circling-the-drain-7467223/today-s-state-of-radio-losing-the-industry-finding-the-podcast-ep-32-circling-the-drain-podcast","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/circling-the-drain-7467223","url":"https://share.transistor.fm/s/7fa85e95","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/7fa85e95/bb28bd25.mp3","summary":"Johnny and Jim talk candidly about the state of radio today, the toll of bad management, and how podcasting has become a lifeline after nearly 50 years on the air. They share raw stories about being let go over Zoom, losing close friends and mentors like Phil Valentine and Dave White, and trying to find purpose again in a fractured media landscape. Guest appearance by longtime radio pro John David Wells, who breaks down what every radio company must give its talent to survive: money, opportunity, training, and respect. From Jesse Jackson on Radio Row to meeting your heroes (and being disappointed), to why personality is still radio’s last great hope, this episode is a love letter, a warning, and a blueprint for what comes next. Timed highlights (for show notes / description) 1:25 – Welcome back to Circling The Drain and where’s Jay Harper? 2:10 – Losing Phil Valentine, Dave White, and nearly 50 years in radio 3:24 – Radio as an abusive ex-wife you still miss 4:29 – Ratings wins, zero attaboys, and keeping the team’s morale up 6:00 – What good leadership and a healthy culture actually look like 7:58 – Phil Valentine’s “horse blinders” lesson and controlling what you can 8:59 – Getting fired over Zoom and bizarre comments from management 10:21 – When bosses praise your work… and still cut you loose 11:00 – The managers who shielded talent from corporate chaos 12:29 – The GM who fired Johnny after “Googling” him 13:33 – Setting boundaries and standing up to bad management 14:25 – Producing ratings but not getting respect or revenue credit 15:35 – Realizing the audience loves you (thanks to a grocery store trip) 16:33 – Depression after losing Phil and radio, and not knowing what’s next 17:53 – How this podcast became purpose and therapy 18:21 – Radio vs. podcasts: competi…","meta_description":"Johnny and Jim talk candidly about the state of radio today, the toll of bad management, and how podcasting has become a lifeline after nearly 50 years on…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3281,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/circling-the-drain-7467223/episodes/today-s-state-of-radio-losing-the-industry-finding-the-podcast-ep-32-circling-the-drain-podcast/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/circling-the-drain-7467223/today-s-state-of-radio-losing-the-industry-finding-the-podcast-ep-32-circling-the-drain-podcast.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}