{"podcast":{"title":"Church Staff Book Club","slug":"church-staff-book-club-7646058","podcast_index_feed_id":7646058,"rss_url":"https://api.riverside.fm/hosting/wZCVo8Of.rss","website_url":"https://jonathanmalm.com","image_url":"https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/1743bd73-d0cd-4a20-a221-0a732e2041e9/logos/40768025-e66c-4d94-8699-53e49b4d0128.jpeg","author":"Jonathan Malm","episode_count":26,"summary":"A podcast for church leaders who want to grow but don’t have time to read every book. Join authors Jonathan Malm and Jason Young as they break down leadership books chapter by chapter, sharing practical insights and real-life ministry applications along the way. Whether you’re reading along or just listening in, this is your go-to resource for becoming a better leader... One conversation at a time.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-15T04:18:47.595679+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058"},"episode":{"title":"The Things that Destroy Your Emotional Health as a Leader","slug":"the-things-that-destroy-your-emotional-health-as-a-leader","published_at":"2026-03-17T13:29:18+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058/the-things-that-destroy-your-emotional-health-as-a-leader","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058","url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/f98d33f8770c19d528df06cf38b188ff3c7189a82b06a6ae915056ca2aa88f06/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI2OTgxNDhlMC1mMWZkLTQ4NTgtOTBhNi0wYTNjM2FlYTk1NjEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIxNzQzYmQ3My1kMGNkLTRhMjAtYTIyMS0wYTczMmUyMDQxZTkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGMxY2FkMzNhMzk0ZmE2NjA0MjBmNDIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjliOTU4MjdkMmUyOTM0M2U1ODkxZGM2L2pvbmF0aGFuLW1hbG1zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTMtMTdfXzE0LTMzLTI3Lm1wMyJ9.mp3","audio_url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/f98d33f8770c19d528df06cf38b188ff3c7189a82b06a6ae915056ca2aa88f06/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI2OTgxNDhlMC1mMWZkLTQ4NTgtOTBhNi0wYTNjM2FlYTk1NjEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIxNzQzYmQ3My1kMGNkLTRhMjAtYTIyMS0wYTczMmUyMDQxZTkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGMxY2FkMzNhMzk0ZmE2NjA0MjBmNDIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjliOTU4MjdkMmUyOTM0M2U1ODkxZGM2L2pvbmF0aGFuLW1hbG1zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTMtMTdfXzE0LTMzLTI3Lm1wMyJ9.mp3","summary":"Season 2 is here — and we're diving into one of the most important (and most overlooked) conversations in church ministry: your emotional health as a leader. Jonathan Malm and Jason Young kick off their discussion of Peter Scazzero's The Emotionally Healthy Leader by unpacking the four telltale signs that a church leader is running on empty — and why most of us don't even realize it's happening. In this episode, you'll learn: Why 95% of leaders think they're self-aware — but only 10–15% actually are The difference between holding binoculars and holding a mirror — and why it changes everything about how you lead Why prioritizing ministry over marriage (or key relationships) is a losing strategy for everyone — including your church How \"doing too much for God\" can actually be a sign you're running from something What Sabbath really means — and why a day off isn't the same thing How to tell the difference between an issue worth addressing and unnecessary chaos you're creating yourself Plus, Jonathan gets honest about reading Scripture just to find content for SundaySocial, and Jason shares the sobering research on what's actually driving burnout in church staff. Whether you're a pastor, a church staff member, or a volunteer leader, this episode will challenge you to stop pointing the binoculars outward and take an honest look in the mirror. 📖 Reading along? Pick up The Emotionally Healthy Leader by Peter Scazzero wherever books are sold.","meta_description":"Season 2 is here — and we're diving into one of the most important (and most overlooked) conversations in church ministry: your emotional health as a lead…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2099,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/church-staff-book-club-7646058/episodes/the-things-that-destroy-your-emotional-health-as-a-leader/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058/the-things-that-destroy-your-emotional-health-as-a-leader.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}