{"podcast":{"title":"Church Staff Book Club","slug":"church-staff-book-club-7646058","podcast_index_feed_id":7646058,"rss_url":"https://api.riverside.fm/hosting/wZCVo8Of.rss","website_url":"https://jonathanmalm.com","image_url":"https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/1743bd73-d0cd-4a20-a221-0a732e2041e9/logos/40768025-e66c-4d94-8699-53e49b4d0128.jpeg","author":"Jonathan Malm","episode_count":26,"summary":"A podcast for church leaders who want to grow but don’t have time to read every book. Join authors Jonathan Malm and Jason Young as they break down leadership books chapter by chapter, sharing practical insights and real-life ministry applications along the way. Whether you’re reading along or just listening in, this is your go-to resource for becoming a better leader... One conversation at a time.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-15T04:18:47.595679+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058"},"episode":{"title":"Success Can Actually Hurt Your Future","slug":"success-can-actually-hurt-your-future","published_at":"2026-05-26T13:38:25+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058/success-can-actually-hurt-your-future","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058","url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/63f2867589519890ec7b911f0abf8aa9b819e86f3d073d4400ca9f551ef05b41/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1MTVhZThiMS1jZmU2LTRjOGEtYTEwYS1lMWI4YmRhZjkxOGEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIxNzQzYmQ3My1kMGNkLTRhMjAtYTIyMS0wYTczMmUyMDQxZTkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGMxY2FkMzNhMzk0ZmE2NjA0MjBmNDIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmExNWEzMDUxZGNmYmY3MjZhZmZiYWE4L2pvbmF0aGFuLW1hbG1zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTUtMjZfXzE1LTQxLTI1Lm1wMyJ9.mp3","audio_url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/63f2867589519890ec7b911f0abf8aa9b819e86f3d073d4400ca9f551ef05b41/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1MTVhZThiMS1jZmU2LTRjOGEtYTEwYS1lMWI4YmRhZjkxOGEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIxNzQzYmQ3My1kMGNkLTRhMjAtYTIyMS0wYTczMmUyMDQxZTkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGMxY2FkMzNhMzk0ZmE2NjA0MjBmNDIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmExNWEzMDUxZGNmYmY3MjZhZmZiYWE4L2pvbmF0aGFuLW1hbG1zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTUtMjZfXzE1LTQxLTI1Lm1wMyJ9.mp3","summary":"We talk a lot about learning from failure. But what about success? It might be quietly doing more damage than you think. In this episode of the Church Staff Book Club, Jonathan Malm and Jason Young dig into Chapter 2 of How to Get a Return on Failure by John Maxwell. The big idea: success and failure don't belong in isolation, and when we treat them that way, both become dangerous. 🎧 What We Cover in This Episode: Why success can deceive you just as much as failure can discourage you The danger of \"I am a success\" vs. \"I am a failure\" and why both are wrong Why the most successful people are sometimes the worst ones to write the book How repeated success quietly causes you to misalign your values and your why Why churches struggle to define success and how failure helps realign it The importance of doing an autopsy on your wins , not just your losses Jonathan's story: the tuxedo skit that nobody learned anything from Jason's honest confession: falling into the identity trap with book reviews Two practical tools to evaluate success and failure: Five Whys and Kaizen The quarterly journal idea for tracking your team's progress like a scoreboard 📖 We're Reading: How to Get a Return on Failure by John Maxwell Follow along chapter by chapter with us! 💬 Key Quotes from This Episode: \"I am a success is just as dangerous as I am a failure.\" \"Success can inflate your ego. Failure attacks it. How do you live inside both?\" A bad day doesn't make you a bad leader.\" 🛠 Free Tools Coming: Jonathan and Jason are building individual and team debriefing tools based on this conversation. Download them at churchstaffbookclub.com 🔗 Connect & Subscribe: Follow us on social media and join the conversation Subscribe so you never miss a chapter Grab How to Get a Return on Failure by John Ma…","meta_description":"We talk a lot about learning from failure. But what about success? It might be quietly doing more damage than you think. In this episode of the Church Sta…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1890,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/church-staff-book-club-7646058/episodes/success-can-actually-hurt-your-future/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058/success-can-actually-hurt-your-future.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}