{"podcast":{"title":"Church Staff Book Club","slug":"church-staff-book-club-7646058","podcast_index_feed_id":7646058,"rss_url":"https://api.riverside.fm/hosting/wZCVo8Of.rss","website_url":"https://jonathanmalm.com","image_url":"https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/1743bd73-d0cd-4a20-a221-0a732e2041e9/logos/40768025-e66c-4d94-8699-53e49b4d0128.jpeg","author":"Jonathan Malm","episode_count":26,"summary":"A podcast for church leaders who want to grow but don’t have time to read every book. Join authors Jonathan Malm and Jason Young as they break down leadership books chapter by chapter, sharing practical insights and real-life ministry applications along the way. Whether you’re reading along or just listening in, this is your go-to resource for becoming a better leader... One conversation at a time.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-15T04:18:47.595679+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058"},"episode":{"title":"Building Resilience Through Failure Makes You Irreplaceable","slug":"building-resilience-through-failure-makes-you-irreplaceable","published_at":"2026-06-16T15:19:12+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058/building-resilience-through-failure-makes-you-irreplaceable","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058","url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/2f65671e557013ff50f4d1aad3d045e259793916c618f0754f67aa055f8024d0/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIyYzdjY2M0ZC04YTg3LTQ0MTgtYjBkOC01Yjc0MTllMTBjMTMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIxNzQzYmQ3My1kMGNkLTRhMjAtYTIyMS0wYTczMmUyMDQxZTkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGMxY2FkMzNhMzk0ZmE2NjA0MjBmNDIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEzMTZhMjgwOTZjNzgwMTdjMDVjY2RkL2pvbmF0aGFuLW1hbG1zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTYtMTZfXzE3LTIyLTE2Lm1wMyJ9.mp3","audio_url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/2f65671e557013ff50f4d1aad3d045e259793916c618f0754f67aa055f8024d0/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIyYzdjY2M0ZC04YTg3LTQ0MTgtYjBkOC01Yjc0MTllMTBjMTMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIxNzQzYmQ3My1kMGNkLTRhMjAtYTIyMS0wYTczMmUyMDQxZTkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGMxY2FkMzNhMzk0ZmE2NjA0MjBmNDIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEzMTZhMjgwOTZjNzgwMTdjMDVjY2RkL2pvbmF0aGFuLW1hbG1zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTYtMTZfXzE3LTIyLTE2Lm1wMyJ9.mp3","summary":"Every leader fails. The question isn't whether it'll happen. It's what you do in the moments after. Do you get bitter, or do you get better? In this episode, Jonathan Malm and Jason Young dig into Chapter 4 of How to Get a Return on Failure by John Maxwell, unpacking how failure can become one of the most powerful tools in your leadership development... if you know how to use it. Jason gets refreshingly honest about a leadership experience that went sideways just days before recording, and Jonathan reflects on why the pressure to perform actually grows the more successful you become. In this episode, you'll learn: Why your response to failure says more about you than the failure itself How to ask the right questions after a setback so you actually grow from it Why the same failure that hardens some leaders softens others and how to make sure you're in the right camp The trap of posturing at conferences (and why the most desperate people in the room often learn the most) How building resilience through failure actually makes you irreplaceable over time Why pain and failure by themselves don't produce growth and what actually does How to shift from being the person doing the cool things to being the person equipping the people doing the cool things Plus a surprisingly rich detour through Pharaoh's hardened heart, Erasmus, and what clay and wax have to do with your next leadership setback.","meta_description":"Every leader fails. The question isn't whether it'll happen. It's what you do in the moments after. Do you get bitter, or do you get better? In this episo…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1741,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/church-staff-book-club-7646058/episodes/building-resilience-through-failure-makes-you-irreplaceable/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058/building-resilience-through-failure-makes-you-irreplaceable.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}