{"podcast":{"title":"Church Staff Book Club","slug":"church-staff-book-club-7646058","podcast_index_feed_id":7646058,"rss_url":"https://api.riverside.fm/hosting/wZCVo8Of.rss","website_url":"https://jonathanmalm.com","image_url":"https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/1743bd73-d0cd-4a20-a221-0a732e2041e9/logos/40768025-e66c-4d94-8699-53e49b4d0128.jpeg","author":"Jonathan Malm","episode_count":26,"summary":"A podcast for church leaders who want to grow but don’t have time to read every book. Join authors Jonathan Malm and Jason Young as they break down leadership books chapter by chapter, sharing practical insights and real-life ministry applications along the way. Whether you’re reading along or just listening in, this is your go-to resource for becoming a better leader... One conversation at a time.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-15T04:18:47.595679+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058"},"episode":{"title":"Are You Planning to Fail?","slug":"are-you-planning-to-fail","published_at":"2026-05-19T12:47:52+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058/are-you-planning-to-fail","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058","url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/1a3c2935352b0e0f300f37a73d71b1a6714810b90cb77418b5f23eb29960fc8d/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI2OWZhZTFiNi1lMzE3LTQ2YTAtYTViYS1jYjc4MWI3NzYxMDgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIxNzQzYmQ3My1kMGNkLTRhMjAtYTIyMS0wYTczMmUyMDQxZTkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGMxY2FkMzNhMzk0ZmE2NjA0MjBmNDIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEwYzVjNmZlZDViOGYwNjMxZjljNmViL2pvbmF0aGFuLW1hbG1zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTUtMTlfXzE0LTQ5LTUxLm1wMyJ9.mp3","audio_url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/1a3c2935352b0e0f300f37a73d71b1a6714810b90cb77418b5f23eb29960fc8d/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI2OWZhZTFiNi1lMzE3LTQ2YTAtYTViYS1jYjc4MWI3NzYxMDgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIxNzQzYmQ3My1kMGNkLTRhMjAtYTIyMS0wYTczMmUyMDQxZTkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGMxY2FkMzNhMzk0ZmE2NjA0MjBmNDIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEwYzVjNmZlZDViOGYwNjMxZjljNmViL2pvbmF0aGFuLW1hbG1zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTUtMTlfXzE0LTQ5LTUxLm1wMyJ9.mp3","summary":"Every leader fails. The question isn't whether it'll happen... it's what you do with it when it does. In this episode of the Church Staff Book Club, Jonathan Malm and Jason Young kick off their third book: How to Get a Return on Failure by John Maxwell. Chapter 1 reframes the way leaders think about failure. From something to avoid at all costs to something that, when handled well, actually pays you back. 🎧 What We Cover in This Episode: Why most people treat failure as final and why that's costing them The difference between you failing and being a failure Why avoiding failure has a cost too (and we rarely count it) Small risks vs. big risks: the fencing approach to leadership Jason's story: 210 volunteers quit in one day and what happened next Why school is actually the safest place to fail (and we've made it terrifying) Planning for failure: anti-faith or just smart leadership? What your first reaction to failure reveals vs. what you do next The Moses principle: why God rarely gives you the full picture up front 📖 We're Reading: How to Get a Return on Failure by John Maxwell. 💬 Key Quotes from This Episode: \"You are not a failure. That thing you did might have failed, but that's not your identity.\" \"Your first reaction to failure is the human part of you. What you do next is the leadership part.\" \"If we don't take risks, things naturally decline.\" 🔗 Connect & Subscribe: Follow us on social media and join the conversation Subscribe so you never miss a chapter Grab How to Get a Return on Failure by John Maxwell and read along with us","meta_description":"Every leader fails. The question isn't whether it'll happen... it's what you do with it when it does. In this episode of the Church Staff Book Club, Jonat…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1979,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/church-staff-book-club-7646058/episodes/are-you-planning-to-fail/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-staff-book-club-7646058/are-you-planning-to-fail.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}