{"podcast":{"title":"ChinaTalk","slug":"chinatalk-418044","podcast_index_feed_id":418044,"rss_url":"https://access.acast.com/rss/6105626053204f0019234612","website_url":"https://chinatalk.substack.com/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2906a086-c1c2-11ec-9157-e76a0695a03d/image/show-cover.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Jordan Schneider","episode_count":549,"summary":"Conversations exploring China, technology, and US-China relations. Guests include a wide range of analysts, policymakers, and academics. Hosted by Jordan Schneider. Check out the newsletter at https://www.chinatalk.media/","last_synced_at":"2026-07-25T06:18:03.845065+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044"},"episode":{"title":"WarTalk with Ely Ratner on Iran War Peace + the 'BS' US-China Stalemate","slug":"wartalk-with-ely-ratner-on-iran-war-peace-the-bs-us-china-stalemate","published_at":"2026-06-19T16:25:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044/wartalk-with-ely-ratner-on-iran-war-peace-the-bs-us-china-stalemate","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044","url":"https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/CHTAL9907715453.mp3","audio_url":"https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/CHTAL9907715453.mp3","summary":"Ely Ratner, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Indo-Pacific Security Affairs and now a principal at the Marathon Initiative, joins Jordan, Bryan Clark, and Justin to make sense of the Iran ceasefire and where US-China competition goes next. We discuss: Why the MOU reads as a loss: the blockade comes down first, Iran keeps its missiles and its \"nuclear dust,\" and a younger, harder regime learns it can take American firepower and wield an oil weapon The \"bullshit détente\" with Beijing and whether reindustrialization can carry a China-competition message without sounding hawkish Output metrics over input metrics, the seven-year force-posture problem, and what Ratner wishes he'd moved into the \"break glass\" category at the Pentagon RoboCom: the pros and cons of standing up a new combatant command Plus Crassus at Parthia, and why chasing parades is a bad idea unless you're the ny knicks suno song: https://suno.com/s/scu8twGj01AIOYSL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices","meta_description":"Ely Ratner, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Indo-Pacific Security Affairs and now a principal at the Marathon Initiative, joins Jordan, Bryan Cl…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4671,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/chinatalk-418044/episodes/wartalk-with-ely-ratner-on-iran-war-peace-the-bs-us-china-stalemate/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044/wartalk-with-ely-ratner-on-iran-war-peace-the-bs-us-china-stalemate.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}