{"podcast":{"title":"ChinaTalk","slug":"chinatalk-418044","podcast_index_feed_id":418044,"rss_url":"https://access.acast.com/rss/6105626053204f0019234612","website_url":"https://chinatalk.substack.com/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2906a086-c1c2-11ec-9157-e76a0695a03d/image/show-cover.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Jordan Schneider","episode_count":535,"summary":"Conversations exploring China, technology, and US-China relations. Guests include a wide range of analysts, policymakers, and academics. Hosted by Jordan Schneider. Check out the newsletter at https://www.chinatalk.media/","last_synced_at":"2026-06-13T06:17:09.814900+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044"},"episode":{"title":"The Toymaker vs. the Tariffs","slug":"the-toymaker-vs-the-tariffs","published_at":"2026-03-19T08:21:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044/the-toymaker-vs-the-tariffs","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044","url":"https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/CHTAL2100857730.mp3","audio_url":"https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/CHTAL2100857730.mp3","summary":"A century-old toy company has taken down Trump’s Liberation Day tariffs with a self-funded lawsuit. But how? Today’s guest is Rick Woldenberg, CEO of Learning Resources, creator of Spike the Fine Motor Hedgehog, and a successful Supreme Court plaintiff in Learning Resources, Inc. v. Trump. Co-hosting is Peter Harrell, who submitted an amicus brief on the tariff case that shook the world. Our conversation covers: David v. Goliath — Why a mid-sized toy company sued when industry giants stayed silent, and what that says about incentives and courage in corporate America. The Existential Math — How tariff costs were set to jump from $2 million to $100 million, putting 500 jobs and a century-old family business at risk. Why Manufacturing Stays in China — The hard economics of toy production, supply-chain concentration, and why moving to Vietnam, India, or Mexico isn’t a simple fix. Rule of Law and Refunds — What it means to win at the Supreme Court, what should happen with the overcollected tariffs, and the constitutional guardrails around taxation. Legacy and Responsibility — Why taking a stand was necessary to protect this company’s mission. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices","meta_description":"A century-old toy company has taken down Trump’s Liberation Day tariffs with a self-funded lawsuit. But how? Today’s guest is Rick Woldenberg, CEO of Lear…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2011,"processing_state":"processed","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/chinatalk-418044/episodes/the-toymaker-vs-the-tariffs/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044/the-toymaker-vs-the-tariffs.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}