{"podcast":{"title":"ChinaTalk","slug":"chinatalk-418044","podcast_index_feed_id":418044,"rss_url":"https://access.acast.com/rss/6105626053204f0019234612","website_url":"https://chinatalk.substack.com/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2906a086-c1c2-11ec-9157-e76a0695a03d/image/show-cover.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Jordan Schneider","episode_count":535,"summary":"Conversations exploring China, technology, and US-China relations. Guests include a wide range of analysts, policymakers, and academics. Hosted by Jordan Schneider. Check out the newsletter at https://www.chinatalk.media/","last_synced_at":"2026-06-13T06:17:09.814900+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044"},"episode":{"title":"Quantum 201: US v China Quantum Industrial Base","slug":"quantum-201-us-v-china-quantum-industrial-base","published_at":"2026-04-27T14:12:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044/quantum-201-us-v-china-quantum-industrial-base","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044","url":"https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/CHTAL8611451760.mp3","audio_url":"https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/CHTAL8611451760.mp3","summary":"Constanza Vidal Bustamante joins Chris Miller and Zachary Yerushalmi to break down her new report with John Burke, Quantum's Industrial Moment: Strengthening US Quantum Supply Chains for Scalable Advantage — a deep dive into the components, chokepoints, and policy levers that will decide who wins the race to a fault-tolerant quantum computer. We discuss… (00:00) Why quantum is \"pre-transistor\" — and why the US still has time to lock in supply chain dominance before the next-gen architecture is even invented (09:53) Dilution refrigerators, helium-3 from the nuclear stockpile, and whether mining the moon is actually a viable Plan B (17:43) Did the 2024 export controls backfire? Inside the case study of China going from zero to dominating dilution-refrigerator publications in two years (48:44) Lasers, photonics, and the Chinese supplier that reverse-engineered a Danish flagship — and is still selling into US labs under R&D tariff exemptions (1:03:45) Why quantum looks more like biotech than semiconductors: 90 companies, ~7 modalities, and the anthropology of an industry where everyone thinks their qubit is the right one Constanza's report: https://www.cnas.org/publications/reports/quantums-industrial-moment The Quantum Throne song: https://suno.com/s/9kBx74ZqUHsgYiQ2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices","meta_description":"Constanza Vidal Bustamante joins Chris Miller and Zachary Yerushalmi to break down her new report with John Burke, Quantum's Industrial Moment: Strengthen…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4479,"processing_state":"processed","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/chinatalk-418044/episodes/quantum-201-us-v-china-quantum-industrial-base/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044/quantum-201-us-v-china-quantum-industrial-base.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}