{"podcast":{"title":"Careers and the Business of Law","slug":"careers-and-the-business-of-law-6403793","podcast_index_feed_id":6403793,"rss_url":"https://feeds.libsyn.com/465618/rss","website_url":"http://sites.libsyn.com/465618/website","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/2/a/5/c/2a5cc799ec50e9a688c4a68c3ddbc4f2/CBL_art.jpg","author":"David Cowen","episode_count":142,"summary":"Welcome to Careers in The Business of Law with David Cowen, the podcast series designed to elevate and accelerate the careers of legal professionals. David aims to provide insightful and inspiring career stories from industry insiders, law firm leaders, corporate law department executives, and legal technology business leaders. This podcast will provide you with an inside look into the career journeys of some of the most successful and influential leaders in the legal field. You will gain actionable insights into their experiences, challenges, and triumphs through these discussions. Recognizing that the legal profession is constantly changing, David wants to ensure that you have the knowledge and tools necessary to navigate this evolving landscape. David's guests will provide insights on topics such as emerging technologies, legal operations, and leadership strategies, which will help you accelerate your career growth and success. David's goal is to create and inspire a community of legal professionals who are dedicated to learning, growing, and advancing their careers. Whether you are a law student, young professional, or seasoned veteran, this podcast series is for you. Join Dav…","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/careers-and-the-business-of-law-6403793"},"episode":{"title":"Legal Just Left the Basement: How AI Is Making the CLO the Most Powerful Person in the Room","slug":"legal-just-left-the-basement-how-ai-is-making-the-clo-the-most-powerful-person-in-the-room","published_at":"2026-03-27T21:29:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/careers-and-the-business-of-law-6403793/legal-just-left-the-basement-how-ai-is-making-the-clo-the-most-powerful-person-in-the-room","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/careers-and-the-business-of-law-6403793","url":"https://48601e5c-fc2d-4099-9281-666ceaf381e8.libsyn.com/legal-just-left-the-basement-how-ai-is-making-the-clo-the-most-powerful-person-in-the-room","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/48601e5c-fc2d-4099-9281-666ceaf381e8/CBL_-_Russ_Elmer.mp3?dest-id=3934293","summary":"The legal department has spent decades as a reactive cost center, called in to fix problems, not prevent them. That's over. In this conversation recorded live at the UDF Lighthouse Customer Forum in Scottsdale, David Cowen sits down with Russ Elmer , General Counsel of ServiceNow, to unpack why 2026 is the year legal transforms from bottleneck to force multiplier, and why the CLO's team is uniquely positioned to become the strategic hub of the entire enterprise. Key Topics Covered: Legal as the enterprise hub: Why the legal department, which touches HR, engineering, finance, and beyond, is better positioned than any other function to generate cross-functional intelligence at scale The bundling/unbundling inflection point: Law firms spent 40 years bundling every knowledge service imaginable. AI is now unbundling all of it, and what's left (judgment, context, relationships) is exactly where great lawyers live The AI dividend: When routine questions and contract redlines get automated, an entire workforce of critically-trained, liberal arts-educated thinkers gets unchained from their desks and unleashed on strategic problems The digital twin concept: Russ shares his vision for a \"smarter Russ Elmer,\" an AI that doesn't just replicate his decisions, but improves on them in real time Brain + arms and legs: Why information alone is worthless without action, and how the ServiceNow partnership is designed to close that gap from insight to outcome The forward-deployed legal engineer: David's framework for the most important career move in legal right now: embed, bridge, build, and grind, because 2026 is the year you either double down or fall behind What legal looks like in 2030: How Russ's team is reimagining org structure, work distribution, and the very definition of what a…","meta_description":"The legal department has spent decades as a reactive cost center, called in to fix problems, not prevent them. 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