{"podcast":{"title":"Cabernet and Pray","slug":"cabernet-and-pray-6576447","podcast_index_feed_id":6576447,"rss_url":"https://app.kajabi.com/podcasts/2147760191/feed","website_url":"https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/podcasts/cabernet-and-pray","image_url":"https://kajabi-storefronts-production.kajabi-cdn.com/kajabi-storefronts-production/file-uploads/site/2147630094/podcasts/bf52c1-eb35-8388-d8db-7d104f8ba383_Cabernet_and_Pray_Podcast.png","author":"Jeremy Jernigan","episode_count":76,"summary":"Cabernet & Pray is a podcast for people who still have questions about Jesus but have complicated feelings about the church and Christianity. Hosted by Jeremy Jernigan (a recovering megachurch pastor), each episode pairs a glass of wine with honest conversations about deconstruction, reconstruction, and what it means to explore faith outside the boundaries of the theological mainstream. If you've ever felt like your doubts disqualified you, or wondered whether there's a version of Christianity that can hold your questions without flinching, then you've found your people.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-02T02:19:15.845867+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cabernet-and-pray-6576447"},"episode":{"title":"Separation of Church and Hate (with John Fugelsang) | Ep. 58","slug":"separation-of-church-and-hate-with-john-fugelsang-ep-58","published_at":"2025-10-22T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cabernet-and-pray-6576447/separation-of-church-and-hate-with-john-fugelsang-ep-58","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cabernet-and-pray-6576447","url":"https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/podcasts/cabernet-and-pray/episodes/2149102541","audio_url":"https://app.kajabi.com/podcasts/medias/2149102541.mp3","summary":"What happens when Christianity gets weaponized for political gain? When culture wars hijack the gospel of love? In this episode, we unpack John Fugelsang's book,  Separation of Church and Hate,  exploring why following Jesus might actually mean breaking up with some forms of Christianity. Pour a glass, lean in, and let’s talk about what it really means to love God and neighbor in an age of outrage. Click here to watch the episode on video. ----------------- Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups Trying to make sense of faith? There's something better waiting for you. Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone.   https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in   Save your seat for the AZ Tasting Event on October 27th:  https://communionwineco.com/events/az-tasting-event/   Links: Get John's book:  https://amzn.to/4qnnyiD John's podcast:  https://www.johnfugelsang.com/podcast   John on Substack:  https://johnfugelsang.substack.com/  ","meta_description":"What happens when Christianity gets weaponized for political gain? When culture wars hijack the gospel of love? In this episode, we unpack John Fugelsang'…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3782,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/cabernet-and-pray-6576447/episodes/separation-of-church-and-hate-with-john-fugelsang-ep-58/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/cabernet-and-pray-6576447/separation-of-church-and-hate-with-john-fugelsang-ep-58.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}