{"podcast":{"title":"But For Real","slug":"but-for-real-7020454","podcast_index_feed_id":7020454,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/but-for-real/","website_url":"https://gaiacenter.co/podcast","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/f6c3e500-9849-404f-bd0e-a8093914ab9c/qdIBdn9PJwJRHYs_p1MTjPQ5.jpg","author":"Valerie Martin & Emerson Ryder","episode_count":48,"summary":"Welcome to But For Real: the podcast where all your swirling thoughts about mental health, pop culture, and how to human are blended into one delicious variety show, co-hosted by therapists Valerie Martin (resident elder millennial ✌️) and Emerson Ryder (resident Gen Z 🫶).","last_synced_at":"2026-06-25T00:19:30.087755+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454"},"episode":{"title":"Unmasking Autism with Devon Price, PhD","slug":"unmasking-autism-with-devon-price-phd","published_at":"2026-05-13T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454/unmasking-autism-with-devon-price-phd","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454","url":"https://but-for-real.captivate.fm/episode/unmasking-autism-with-devon-price-phd","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/38d7a915-55dc-4f92-b8dc-a4f85c5293ff.mp3","summary":"What if the version of you most of the world knows… isn’t actually *you*? In this episode of But For Real , we’re sitting down with Devon Price, PhD—social psychologist, author of Unmasking Autism (+ several other books!), and badass autistic human—to get really REAL about something that is kinda the opposite of that: Masking. That pattern of adaptation that’s helped you survive… but can slowly erode at your sense of self. 🫠 In this conversation, we get into what it actually means to “mask” as an autistic or otherwise neurodivergent person (hell, even just as a people-pleaser living in a capitalist society): how it shows up, why so many of us do it without even realizing, and what happens when you finally start to take that mask off. If you’re one of MANY people who was diagnosed with autism later in life, you know it can feel like a huge relief… but it can *also* feel like grief, anger, and even a full-on “who TF am I actually?” era. We’re talking about what it’s like to spend decades performing “normal,” only to realize you’ve been white-knuckling your way through life—and what it takes to rebuild something that actually fits. And we keep coming back to this: You don’t just “stop masking.” You slowly, painfully, honestly… learn how to exist as yourself. So if you’ve ever thought… “Why am I so exhausted ALL THE TIME?” “Why do I feel like I’m performing in every interaction?” “Who am I without all of this?” …this one’s for you. 🫂 In this episode of But For Real, we unpack… What “masking” actually is—and why it’s so common in autistic adults Why late autism diagnoses often bring both relief AND grief The hidden cost of people-pleasing and social “autopilot” Why you can’t just flip a switch and stop masking overnight How identity confusion shows up after unmasking begins…","meta_description":"What if the version of you most of the world knows… isn’t actually *you*? In this episode of But For Real , we’re sitting down with Devon Price, PhD—socia…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2862,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/but-for-real-7020454/episodes/unmasking-autism-with-devon-price-phd/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454/unmasking-autism-with-devon-price-phd.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}