{"podcast":{"title":"But For Real","slug":"but-for-real-7020454","podcast_index_feed_id":7020454,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/but-for-real/","website_url":"https://gaiacenter.co/podcast","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/f6c3e500-9849-404f-bd0e-a8093914ab9c/qdIBdn9PJwJRHYs_p1MTjPQ5.jpg","author":"Valerie Martin & Emerson Ryder","episode_count":48,"summary":"Welcome to But For Real: the podcast where all your swirling thoughts about mental health, pop culture, and how to human are blended into one delicious variety show, co-hosted by therapists Valerie Martin (resident elder millennial ✌️) and Emerson Ryder (resident Gen Z 🫶).","last_synced_at":"2026-06-25T00:19:30.087755+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454"},"episode":{"title":"The Self-Growth Industrial Complex 🔍","slug":"the-self-growth-industrial-complex","published_at":"2025-10-15T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454/the-self-growth-industrial-complex","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454","url":"https://but-for-real.captivate.fm/episode/the-self-growth-industrial-complex-","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/12bed2bf-0a6e-43df-aa43-c395f1cb04d5.mp3","summary":"Conversations around self-growth are all over every media platform these days – and while introspection and commitment to growth and change is important, it’s easy for it to be an all consuming trap that’s actually the opposite of growth. In this episode, Valerie and Emerson take a deep dive into the history of the self-growth industrial complex, explore what’s useful, debunk what’s not, and give you real advice on how to tackle self-improvement without spiraling. This episode covers: 05:26 - Tea & Crumpets: Bob Trevino Likes It + the Abbey Yung hair method 10:42 - Step Into My Office: How do I know when self-growth is actually healthy vs. when it’s becoming too much? 21:55 - The DSM: The Self-Growth Industrial Complex 43:09 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY! 44:46 - Em Pick: \"Love Myself\" by Olivia O'Brien 47:41 - Val Pick: \"Adventures in Success\" by Will Powers 48:19 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: 9 year old aspiring pediatric neuro-surgeon Aiden Wilkins very well may become the youngest doctor in the world + The Greenagers group gets youths to love the outdoors Resources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode: Bob Trevino Likes It Abbey Yung hair method Love Myself by Olivia O’Brien Adventures in Success by Will Powers 9 year old aspiring pediatric neuro-surgeon Aiden Wilkins The Greenagers group gets youths to love the outdoors Connect with Us: Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com   But For Real on IG: @butforrealpod Now That's What I Call... OKAAAAY Playlist The Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenter Val on IG: @valkaymartin The Gaia Center website: www.gaiacenter.co   DISCLAIMER : But For Real Podcast is not a substitute for individualized mental health treatment or healthcare. This podcast is solely for entertainment and educational purpo…","meta_description":"Conversations around self-growth are all over every media platform these days – and while introspection and commitment to growth and change is important,…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3281,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/but-for-real-7020454/episodes/the-self-growth-industrial-complex/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454/the-self-growth-industrial-complex.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}