{"podcast":{"title":"But For Real","slug":"but-for-real-7020454","podcast_index_feed_id":7020454,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/but-for-real/","website_url":"https://gaiacenter.co/podcast","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/f6c3e500-9849-404f-bd0e-a8093914ab9c/qdIBdn9PJwJRHYs_p1MTjPQ5.jpg","author":"Valerie Martin & Emerson Ryder","episode_count":48,"summary":"Welcome to But For Real: the podcast where all your swirling thoughts about mental health, pop culture, and how to human are blended into one delicious variety show, co-hosted by therapists Valerie Martin (resident elder millennial ✌️) and Emerson Ryder (resident Gen Z 🫶).","last_synced_at":"2026-06-25T00:19:30.087755+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454"},"episode":{"title":"How Music Helps You Heal 🎵❤️‍🩹","slug":"how-music-helps-you-heal","published_at":"2025-12-10T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454/how-music-helps-you-heal","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454","url":"https://but-for-real.captivate.fm/episode/how-music-helps-you-heal-","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6937bbc6-f676-469e-b986-168135b2e9b6.mp3","summary":"Music is literally the soundtrack of our lives – and music can be incredibly healing when used in the right way. In this episode of But For Real, Valerie and Emerson dive into the ins and outs of music therapy, how and why it works, and how you can start your own music therapy journey. This episode covers: 04:12 - Tea & Crumpets: Virginia Giuffre’s memoir: Nobody’s Girl + Take Back Your Marriage by Bill Doherty 09:47 - Step Into My Office: Could music therapy be right for me, even if I’m not “musical”? 15:03 - The DSM: What Even Is Music Therapy? 40:02 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY! 43:34 - Val Pick: \"Does Not Suffice\" by Joanna Newsom 46:40 - Em Pick: \"29\" by Demi Lovato 47:11 - Wait...What? Is this gonna ruin the tour? 49:01 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: Fishing as an option for mental health treatment + A stray dog that turned into a service dog has just been crowned the 2025 Hero Dog Award by the American Humane Society! Resources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode: Nobody's Girl by Virginia Roberts Giuffre Take Back Your Marriage by Bill Doherty American Music Therapy Association How to find a certified MT-BC Does Not Suffice by Joanna Newsom 29 by Demi Lovato Fishing as an option for mental health treatment  A stray dog that turned into a service dog has just been crowned the 2025 Hero Dog Award by the American Humane Society! Connect with Us: Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com   But For Real on IG: @butforrealpod Now That's What I Call... OKAAAAY Playlist The Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenter Val on IG: @valkaymartin The Gaia Center website: www.gaiacenter.co   DISCLAIMER : But For Real Podcast is not a substitute for individualized mental health treatment or healthcare. This podcast is solely for entertainment and ed…","meta_description":"Music is literally the soundtrack of our lives – and music can be incredibly healing when used in the right way. In this episode of But For Real, Valerie…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3361,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/but-for-real-7020454/episodes/how-music-helps-you-heal/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454/how-music-helps-you-heal.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}