{"podcast":{"title":"Bullhorns and Bullseyes","slug":"bullhorns-and-bullseyes-6688432","podcast_index_feed_id":6688432,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e556de6c/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://bullhornsbullseyes.com/","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/38376755/38376755-1734892493656-4b83d04e9db0e.jpg","author":"Curtis Hays and Tom Nixon","episode_count":79,"summary":"Co-hosted by Curtis Hays and Tom Nixon, Bullhorns and Bullseyes explores a broad range of marketing and advertising strategies. From the art of broadcasting compelling stories and thought leadership in order to grow an audience (Bullhorns) to the science of micro-targeting and retargeting highly specific individuals and buyer personas through advanced digital marketing (Bullseyes), we explore the present and future with a curious eye and honest analysis. Join the community today to help us on our mission to close the loop between marketing activity and client/customer acquisition.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/bullhorns-and-bullseyes-6688432"},"episode":{"title":"S2.E13: Audience Over Customer, with Dani Dufresne","slug":"s2-e13-audience-over-customer-with-dani-dufresne","published_at":"2025-06-17T11:39:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/bullhorns-and-bullseyes-6688432/s2-e13-audience-over-customer-with-dani-dufresne","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/bullhorns-and-bullseyes-6688432","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bullhorns-and-bullseyes/episodes/S2-E13-Audience-Over-Customer--with-Dani-Dufresne-e34alj0","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e556de6c/podcast/play/104207392/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-5-16%2F2f3d9b56-7750-95f4-3655-d296de5d9003.mp3","summary":"Curtis and Tom welcome Dani Dufresne, Executive Producer and Founder of The Aux Company, to explore the evolution of the agency model. Dani emphasizes the importance of building an audience, rather than just having customers . The group discusses and debates insights on community engagement, the significance of branding before marketing, and the need for data-driven decisions in marketing strategies. The conversation also touches on the importance of consistency in messaging and the agility required in today's fast-paced marketing environment. Ultimately, the episode highlights the necessity of understanding your audience and creating a brand that resonates with them. N.B.: Check out The Aux Co.’s website . Connect with Dani on LinkedIn ! Takeaways: Brands should focus on building an audience, not just customers. The new agency model allows for flexibility and creativity. Branding should come before marketing efforts. Data-driven decisions are crucial for effective marketing strategies. Consistency in messaging is key to brand success. Agility in marketing allows brands to adapt to changes quickly. Understanding your audience is essential for effective branding. Sales will follow when a brand builds a loyal community. Creating brand magnetism requires authenticity and connection.","meta_description":"Curtis and Tom welcome Dani Dufresne, Executive Producer and Founder of The Aux Company, to explore the evolution of the agency model. Dani emphasizes the…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2232,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/bullhorns-and-bullseyes-6688432/episodes/s2-e13-audience-over-customer-with-dani-dufresne/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/bullhorns-and-bullseyes-6688432/s2-e13-audience-over-customer-with-dani-dufresne.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}