{"podcast":{"title":"Building Better CMOs and Marketing Leaders","slug":"building-better-cmos-and-marketing-leaders-6393422","podcast_index_feed_id":6393422,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/buildingbettercmos","website_url":"https://www.mmaglobal.com/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/dda6df20-f8fc-11ed-b126-cbcfd256c207/image/84a91de7e81e94aedd1942386a62490b.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"MMA Global / LightningPod","episode_count":57,"summary":"Marketing leaders are facing constant new challenges. If you want to stay ahead of the curve, listen to Building Better CMOs, from the nonprofit thinktank MMA Global. It's a podcast about the future of marketing and how marketers can get smarter & stronger, hosted by MMA CEO Greg Stuart. Greg interviews some of the wisest and most successful CMOs in the business, who share crucial insights about what their industry gets wrong, how to get to the C-Suite, and how to unlock the true power of marketing. You'll gain a deeper understanding of the evolving purpose of marketing leaders, and learn actionable strategies to overcome obstacles. Produced by LightningPod.fm. For transcripts and more, visit bettercmos.com","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/building-better-cmos-and-marketing-leaders-6393422"},"episode":{"title":"Bob Sherwin, CMO of Zoe: Navigating Media Shifts","slug":"bob-sherwin-cmo-of-zoe-navigating-media-shifts","published_at":"2025-04-30T07:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/building-better-cmos-and-marketing-leaders-6393422/bob-sherwin-cmo-of-zoe-navigating-media-shifts","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/building-better-cmos-and-marketing-leaders-6393422","url":"https://bettercmos.com/bobsherwin-transcript","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/NOTDI8220785468.mp3?updated=1745943361","summary":"Watch this interview on YouTube Full transcript — Media consumption habits are changing rapidly, which means marketers have to thread the needle between \"chasing the shiny new object\" and embracing emerging platforms strategically. For Bob Sherwin, the chief marketing & commercial officer of Zoe, the solution is to frame new media initiatives as a test. \"The test is that you're going to either win and find something new, or you're going to learn,\" Bob says. \"As long as you set it up as a test and you're going to learn something, it's a win no matter what. Because we're going to either be way smarter about something, or we're going to find a new breakthrough.\" Today on Building Better CMOs, he and MMA Global CEO Greg Stuart discuss the role of CMOs in shaping customer experience; aligning marketing efforts with business outcomes; and the need for clear communication with the C-suite to maximize marketing's impact. They also talk about Zoe's personalized approach to nutrition and the challenges of marketing measurement and attribution. Follow Building Better CMOs in your podcast app Subscribe on YouTube Rate & review the podcast Links: Bob's LinkedIn Greg's LinkedIn This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm.","meta_description":"Watch this interview on YouTube Full transcript — Media consumption habits are changing rapidly, which means marketers have to thread the needle between \"…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3031,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/building-better-cmos-and-marketing-leaders-6393422/episodes/bob-sherwin-cmo-of-zoe-navigating-media-shifts/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/building-better-cmos-and-marketing-leaders-6393422/bob-sherwin-cmo-of-zoe-navigating-media-shifts.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}