{"podcast":{"title":"Bourbon Pursuit","slug":"bourbon-pursuit-742160","podcast_index_feed_id":742160,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/bourbonpursuit","website_url":"https://bourbonpursuit.com","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5845b3c6-0680-11ec-90ed-534761bbd9de/image/BP_Cover_Art_7_copy.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Bourbon Pursuit","episode_count":1181,"summary":"The Official Podcast of Bourbon! The best in news, reviews and interviews with people making the bourbon whiskey industry happen. Join hosts Kenny Coleman, Ryan Cecil, and Fred Minnick as they talk with prominent guests and provide insight on American whiskey 3 times a week. Catch all new episodes every Thursday with special Whiskey Quickie reviews on Tuesday and get caught up on bourbon news with This Week in Bourbon on Friday.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-17T20:19:46.581847+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/bourbon-pursuit-742160"},"episode":{"title":"558 - Is Brandy America's First Native Spirit? with Rob Bourdon of Copper and Kings","slug":"558-is-brandy-america-s-first-native-spirit-with-rob-bourdon-of-copper-and-kings","published_at":"2026-03-19T09:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/bourbon-pursuit-742160/558-is-brandy-america-s-first-native-spirit-with-rob-bourdon-of-copper-and-kings","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/bourbon-pursuit-742160","url":"https://bourbonpursuit.com/2026/03/19/558-is-brandy-americas-first-native-spirit-with-rob-bourdon-of-copper-and-kings","audio_url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/BPLLC6309326272.mp3?updated=1773905364","summary":"Is American Brandy finally ready to step out of bourbon's shadow? Today, we’re joined by Rob Bourdon, the new owner of Copper & Kings, to discuss his vision for revitalizing one of Louisville’s most creative distilleries. I've had the great pleasure of knowing Rob for years because he was part of Tennesee Distilling Group and led a lot of their new fill and barrel contracts. Rob shares his past where was professional hockey player but we quickly pivot to talking about why brandy. When I heard he was buying Copper & Kings I was a bit shocked but Rob puts a great spin on it to see the opportunity in brandy versus the crowded bourbon market. But don't get me wrong, there's still a lot of really great brandy, bourbon, and tequila plays here. So if you're coming to Louisville and need a break from the bourbon, go check out Copper & Kings to see what he's got going on over there and pick one up on your shelf when you need to change things up. Show Notes: Challenges and developments in the Tennessee distilling industry Rob’s vision for Copper and Kings and the significance of American brandy Discussion of innovative products and unique distillation approaches Tasting notes featuring their apple brandy and other specialties Importance of educating consumers about brandy Plans for community engagement and revitalizing distillery events Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices","meta_description":"Is American Brandy finally ready to step out of bourbon's shadow? Today, we’re joined by Rob Bourdon, the new owner of Copper & Kings, to discuss his visi…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4662,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/bourbon-pursuit-742160/episodes/558-is-brandy-america-s-first-native-spirit-with-rob-bourdon-of-copper-and-kings/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/bourbon-pursuit-742160/558-is-brandy-america-s-first-native-spirit-with-rob-bourdon-of-copper-and-kings.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}