{"podcast":{"title":"Born to Be Free: Supporting Neurodivergent Clients to Learn, Play, & Thrive","slug":"born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792","podcast_index_feed_id":734792,"rss_url":"https://feeds.simplecast.com/95l3t3IC","website_url":"https://two-sides-of-the-spectrum.simplecast.com","image_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/62e905a3-f925-4404-974d-ccbaebf8701a/4a0ec5d3-13de-49fb-ac5d-c07112bc3c11/3000x3000/colorfadinglessintensitywsquare1.jpg?aid=rss_feed","author":"Meg Ferrell","episode_count":126,"summary":"A podcast for professionals looking to support the deepest wellbeing of their neurodivergent clients. We focus on lived experiences, research, affirming practices, intersectionality, and the practical ways we can support authentic wellbeing. Visit learnplaythrive.com/podcast/","last_synced_at":"2026-09-02T20:21:37.237655+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792"},"episode":{"title":"When Your Client Needs Novelty & Routines All At Once: Supporting AuDHDers with Dr. Bowen Marshall, LPCC, PhD","slug":"when-your-client-needs-novelty-routines-all-at-once-supporting-audhders-with-dr-bowen-marshall-lpcc-phd","published_at":"2026-06-10T11:12:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792/when-your-client-needs-novelty-routines-all-at-once-supporting-audhders-with-dr-bowen-marshall-lpcc-phd","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792","url":"https://two-sides-of-the-spectrum.simplecast.com/episodes/when-your-client-needs-novelty-routines-all-at-once-supporting-audhders-with-dr-bowen-marshall-lpcc-phd-Oc7Pp4dO","audio_url":"https://cdn.simplecast.com/media/audio/transcoded/ada97ddd-7edd-4184-a7ca-a5b82c213ac8/b81a4df9-d5e1-4a0d-a9fb-65a02f9e4a87/episodes/audio/group/bfee62df-b42b-4cb5-b336-b21699114256/group-item/8d2a6e4e-4b7b-4591-a904-1b7445da3071/128_default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&feed=95l3t3IC","summary":"This episode is a deep and nuanced exploration into the seemingly competing needs of being Autistic and being ADHD. We call these folks AuDHD-ers, and they're often faced with both the need for routines that comes with being Autistic and the craving for novelty that comes with ADHD. In this episode, AuDHD psychotherapist, Dr. Bowen Marshall, helps us explore all of the complexities around AuDHD, including how ADHD and autism can be complementary and how that may change when one condition is medicated. We talk about what's tricky and what helps, and we look in every corner of this to explore the complexities of this topic, like dopamine, executive function, routines, estrogen, testosterone, gender identity, race, and more. Dr. Bowen Marshall, PhD is a licensed psychotherapist, bestselling author, and consultant specializing in ADHD, Autism, relationships, and Complex-PTSD.","meta_description":"This episode is a deep and nuanced exploration into the seemingly competing needs of being Autistic and being ADHD. We call these folks AuDHD-ers, and the…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2555,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792/episodes/when-your-client-needs-novelty-routines-all-at-once-supporting-audhders-with-dr-bowen-marshall-lpcc-phd/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792/when-your-client-needs-novelty-routines-all-at-once-supporting-audhders-with-dr-bowen-marshall-lpcc-phd.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}