{"podcast":{"title":"Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running","slug":"borderlands-trail-and-ultra-running-6921910","podcast_index_feed_id":6921910,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/borderlands/","website_url":"https://www.borderlands.cc","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/e17f1889-0716-4cd0-8b1f-5d7d3545d2d3/Podcast-Art-March-2025.jpg","author":"Josh Rosenthal | Ultra Runner","episode_count":323,"summary":"Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running is a storytelling podcast for ultra runners who love this sport deeply, the iconic races, the legendary athletes, the gear, and the culture that makes all of it worth caring about. Hosted by Josh Rosenthal, founder of Borderlands Trail Running, this show exists to collect the ultra running stories that define the sport, from spending a day at Laz Lake's home to deep conversations with Scott Jurek, Dean Karnazes, Camille Herron, and the everyday runners doing extraordinary things out on the trails. This podcast covers the full world of ultra and trail running: race coverage and analysis of marquee events including Western States Endurance Run and UTMB, honest trail running shoes reviews and ultra running gear breakdowns from someone who has tested 44 pairs over 6,000 miles, and big conversations about where the sport is headed, including what dirtbag runners bring to a sport that's growing fast. This show gives ultra runners the stories, perspectives, and gear knowledge to go deeper into a sport they already love while celebrating what makes trail and ultra running unlike anything else. We'll answer questions like: - Who is Laz Lake, and why does…","last_synced_at":"2026-09-09T00:17:50.867842+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/borderlands-trail-and-ultra-running-6921910"},"episode":{"title":"Trail Running Culture Doesn't Scale | Bob Crowley's Response","slug":"trail-running-culture-doesn-t-scale-bob-crowley-s-response","published_at":"2026-06-22T16:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/borderlands-trail-and-ultra-running-6921910/trail-running-culture-doesn-t-scale-bob-crowley-s-response","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/borderlands-trail-and-ultra-running-6921910","url":"https://www.borderlands.cc/recent-podcast-episodes/bob","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/68764204-b16f-4f13-92ac-c33c4b36c7e9.mp3","summary":"Western States and UTMB are often framed as opposite visions for the future of trail running. One protects through limits. The other protects through growth. But after publishing an episode on that tension, I received an unexpected response from Bob Crowley, former President of the International Trail Running Association (ITRA). Bob argues that both sides may be focused on the wrong thing. What follows is a conversation about culture, stewardship, local races, and whether the values that built trail running can survive success. Somewhere along the way, the debate stops being about Western States and UTMB and becomes something much bigger. Please give us a follow, rate the podcast, and give a review. If you’re new to Borderlands, start here . Resources / Links Western States Wants to Protect, UTMB Wants to Grow Bob's Full Op-ed Borderlands.cc La French Trail Related Episodes Ultra Running isn't Just Running Presented by Kiprun . ---- Borderlands explores trail running through culture, media, and the forces shaping it. Watch on YouTube Read on Substack","meta_description":"Western States and UTMB are often framed as opposite visions for the future of trail running. One protects through limits. The other protects through grow…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1375,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/borderlands-trail-and-ultra-running-6921910/episodes/trail-running-culture-doesn-t-scale-bob-crowley-s-response/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/borderlands-trail-and-ultra-running-6921910/trail-running-culture-doesn-t-scale-bob-crowley-s-response.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}