{"podcast":{"title":"Big Technology Podcast","slug":"big-technology-podcast-197340","podcast_index_feed_id":197340,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/LI3617121267","website_url":"https://www.bigtechnology.com/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e70f9594-937b-11ec-bfe0-2b4c46de3cc3/image/ac86ab8de3e6d78450970f49c51a117b.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Alex Kantrowitz","episode_count":559,"summary":"The Big Technology Podcast takes you behind the scenes in the tech world featuring interviews with plugged-in insiders and outside agitators. Alex Kantrowitz, a Silicon Valley journalist who's interviewed the world's top tech CEOs — from Mark Zuckerberg to Larry Ellison — is the host.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-02T20:18:57.620942+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/big-technology-podcast-197340"},"episode":{"title":"AI Fact or Fiction: The Fable Ban, Tokenmaxxing, Saaspocolypse — With Ara Kharazian","slug":"ai-fact-or-fiction-the-fable-ban-tokenmaxxing-saaspocolypse-with-ara-kharazian","published_at":"2026-06-17T16:31:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/big-technology-podcast-197340/ai-fact-or-fiction-the-fable-ban-tokenmaxxing-saaspocolypse-with-ara-kharazian","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/big-technology-podcast-197340","url":"https://pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/t7yC0rGPUqahTF4et8YD/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/AMPP6314055576.mp3","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/t7yC0rGPUqahTF4et8YD/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/AMPP6314055576.mp3","summary":"Ara Kharazian is the lead economist at Ramp. Kharazian joins Big Technology to discuss how much companies are actually spending on AI and whether that spending is producing real value. Tune in to hear why Anthropic has overtaken OpenAI among businesses, how AI spending varies dramatically from company to company, and whether “tokenmaxing” is really happening. We also cover Anthropic’s clash with the White House, the resurgence of DeepSeek, Google’s underrated position in AI, and whether the predicted SaaS apocalypse is materializing. Hit play for a data-driven look at which AI narratives are real, which are exaggerated, and where business adoption goes next. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices","meta_description":"Ara Kharazian is the lead economist at Ramp. Kharazian joins Big Technology to discuss how much companies are actually spending on AI and whether that spe…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2901,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/big-technology-podcast-197340/episodes/ai-fact-or-fiction-the-fable-ban-tokenmaxxing-saaspocolypse-with-ara-kharazian/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/big-technology-podcast-197340/ai-fact-or-fiction-the-fable-ban-tokenmaxxing-saaspocolypse-with-ara-kharazian.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}