{"podcast":{"title":"Between Two Beers Podcast","slug":"between-two-beers-podcast-792534","podcast_index_feed_id":792534,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/6775cb68499663105e17ae63","website_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/between-two-beers-podcast","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/6775cb68499663105e17ae63/1777152440915-52582add-fc4f-4175-92b4-2dbb8b4a56da.jpeg","author":"Steven Holloway","episode_count":400,"summary":"Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast, allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access. From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington... Between Two Beers has produced countless hours of incredible stories, career highs, lows and moments of raw vulnerability. All from the One NZ Studio. Acast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/between-two-beers-podcast-792534"},"episode":{"title":"The Forensic Scientist Who Investigated 160 Murders & Lost Himself in the Process: Ruben Miller","slug":"the-forensic-scientist-who-investigated-160-murders-lost-himself-in-the-process-ruben-miller","published_at":"2026-03-29T05:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/between-two-beers-podcast-792534/the-forensic-scientist-who-investigated-160-murders-lost-himself-in-the-process-ruben-miller","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/between-two-beers-podcast-792534","url":"https://shows.acast.com/between-two-beers-podcast/episodes/69c89aadb9e4e973bf652033","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/6775cb68499663105e17ae63/e/69c89aadb9e4e973bf652033/media.mp3","summary":"Ruben Miller spent 22 years as a forensic scientist in New Zealand, working on more than 160 homicide investigations. This is the story of what it cost him. In this episode we talk about what it actually feels like to walk into a homicide scene, the forensic principle that guides every investigation, the case that still hasn't left him, and what two decades of witnessing violence quietly does to a person. We also get into PTSD, therapy, what resilience actually means versus what we tell ourselves it means, and how Ruben found compassion for people most of us would write off entirely. Ruben's book The Blood Says Otherwise is out now at all good bookstores and online. Steve and Seamus are proud to be dressed by our friends at Barkers Clothing. ⚠️ This episode contains discussion of homicide, child death, trauma, and PTSD. Please take care. If anything in this episode brings something up for you: Mental health — Need to talk? Free call or text 1737, any time. Depression & anxiety — Lifeline: 0800 543 354 Domestic violence — Are You OK: 0800 456 789 In a crisis right now — call 111 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"Ruben Miller spent 22 years as a forensic scientist in New Zealand, working on more than 160 homicide investigations. This is the story of what it cost hi…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":7993,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/between-two-beers-podcast-792534/episodes/the-forensic-scientist-who-investigated-160-murders-lost-himself-in-the-process-ruben-miller/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/between-two-beers-podcast-792534/the-forensic-scientist-who-investigated-160-murders-lost-himself-in-the-process-ruben-miller.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}