{"podcast":{"title":"Behind the Stays","slug":"behind-the-stays-3506810","podcast_index_feed_id":3506810,"rss_url":"https://feed.podbean.com/behindthestays/feed.xml","website_url":"https://www.behindthestays.com/","image_url":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/10635360/BTS-Artwork-1400x1400.jpg","author":"Zach Busekrus","episode_count":368,"summary":"Welcome to Behind the Stays — a podcast that shares the stories behind your favorite boutique hotels, short-term rentals, and hospitality brands and the hosts, operators, and entrepreneurs who’ve brought them to life. Every Tuesday and Friday you’ll meet the military veterans, retired flight attendants, tech entrepreneurs, school teachers, single moms, hoteliers, and real estate investors who are all, in their unique ways, shaping the future of travel and hospitality. Discover how these visionaries — from all over the world — have built stunning landscape hotels in the mountains, designed bohemian bungalows on the beach, erected eclectic off-grid and nature-immersed escapes, and so much more. Behind the Stays is brought to you by Journey — a first-of-its-kind loyalty program that brings together an alliance of the world’s top independently owned and operated stays and allows travelers to earn points and perks on boutique hotels, vacation rentals, treehouses, ski chalets, glamping experiences and so much more. And I’m your host, Zach Busekrus, Head of the Journey Alliance. Alright friends, enjoy the show!","last_synced_at":"2026-07-22T04:18:26.153492+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/behind-the-stays-3506810"},"episode":{"title":"From Developing Aman to Building The Stanza: How Nadine Choe Built a Media Brand Where Taste Is the Moat","slug":"from-developing-aman-to-building-the-stanza-how-nadine-choe-built-a-media-brand-where-taste-is-the-moat","published_at":"2026-03-03T06:19:28+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/behind-the-stays-3506810/from-developing-aman-to-building-the-stanza-how-nadine-choe-built-a-media-brand-where-taste-is-the-moat","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/behind-the-stays-3506810","url":"https://behindthestays.podbean.com/e/from-underwriting-aman-to-building-the-stanza-how-nadine-choe-built-a-media-brand-where-taste-is-the-moat/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/4mr22z8k73d8kw2b/BTS_32763r0f.mp3","summary":"Explore The Stanza: https://www.thestanzamedia.com/ Apply to join the Journey Alliance: http://journey.com/alliance/Before she built one of hospitality’s most thoughtful media brands, Nadine Choe was underwriting some of the most ambitious luxury developments in the world — including Aman Beverly Hills, a $5B project years in the making.She understands air rights, entitlement risk, capital stacks, branded residences, and why the “flag” can make or break a deal.And then she walked away.Moved to Europe. Started publishing ideas on the internet. Went viral by dissecting how lifestyle brands become hospitality empires — and why most projects fail before they ever break ground.That experiment became The Stanza — a media platform where capital meets culture, and where taste isn’t aesthetic decoration… it’s strategic advantage.In this episode, we explore: What really goes into building ultra-luxury hospitality Distribution vs. desire — and why the best brands don’t optimize for everyone Why most pitch decks fail (and what investors actually want to see) How authenticity becomes a moat in both hotels and media And why the future of luxury may belong to smaller, family-led operators who treat hospitality like art If you’re building a brand, raising capital, or trying to create something truly one-of-one in an increasingly algorithmic world — this conversation will recalibrate how you think about luxury.Taste, Nadine argues, is not decoration. It’s defense.Stream below or wherever you get your podcasts","meta_description":"Explore The Stanza: https://www.thestanzamedia.com/ Apply to join the Journey Alliance: http://journey.com/alliance/Before she built one of hospitality’s…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3160,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/behind-the-stays-3506810/episodes/from-developing-aman-to-building-the-stanza-how-nadine-choe-built-a-media-brand-where-taste-is-the-moat/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/behind-the-stays-3506810/from-developing-aman-to-building-the-stanza-how-nadine-choe-built-a-media-brand-where-taste-is-the-moat.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}