{"podcast":{"title":"Bankless","slug":"bankless-357756","podcast_index_feed_id":357756,"rss_url":"https://feeds.flightcast.com/p83fuj0y0u58o82l41xei7zo.xml","website_url":"http://podcast.banklesshq.com/","image_url":"https://assets.flightcast.com/workspaces/vzyepv1wunc8uo4au6e1tld4/podcasts/p83fuj0y0u58o82l41xei7zo/qytiwwt972ormowswu9ysv65.png","author":"Bankless","episode_count":1342,"summary":"The Ultimate Guide to Crypto Finance. DeFi, NFTs, and cryptocurrencies. Level up. Go bankless.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-16T20:21:45.866230+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/bankless-357756"},"episode":{"title":"AI, Surveillance, and the Fight for Digital Sovereignty | Near's Illia Polosukhin","slug":"ai-surveillance-and-the-fight-for-digital-sovereignty-near-s-illia-polosukhin","published_at":"2026-06-23T10:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/bankless-357756/ai-surveillance-and-the-fight-for-digital-sovereignty-near-s-illia-polosukhin","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/bankless-357756","url":"https://episode.flightcast.com/01KVSFF29781MTBXQ8SXYDVY7H.mp3","audio_url":"https://episode.flightcast.com/01KVSFF29781MTBXQ8SXYDVY7H.mp3","summary":"What happens when powerful AI requires an ID, governments can restrict access by country, and your most private data flows through centralized systems? NEAR co-founder Illia Polosukhin joins David to explain why AI export controls could fracture the internet, how nationalized AI could become a surveillance layer, and why decentralized, user-owned AI may be the only real alternative. They also unpack Ironclaw, confidential inference, private agents, and NEAR’s push to make AI and assets fully sovereign. --- 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKET https://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast 🧭OKX | TRADE, EARN, PAY to OKX | 120M+ USERS WORLDWIDE https://app.okx.com/join/USBANKLESS 🦊 METAMASK | DOWNLOAD NOW https://go.metamask.io/BL-Pod-Download 🌐BRIX | EMERGING MARKET YIELD https://bankless.cc/brix 📊BITGET | TOKENIZED STOCKS 2.0 https://bankless.cc/bitget-stocks 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://thedefireport.io/bankless --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 3:47 Pandora’s Box Opens 6:03 AI Meets Government 7:16 Decentralizing the Stack 8:51 Why Ban Fable? 11:18 Internet Balkanization 13:57 KYC for AI? 18:43 Nationalized Models 21:07 Building Private AI 26:30 Agent Marketplace 30:26 User-Owned Alignment 35:28 Winning Against Giants 40:19 Regulation Fuels Crypto 42:24 Global AI Adoption 45:05 Compute Is the Bottleneck 49:00 Enterprise Use Cases 51:39 Confidential TVL Explained 55:25 Full Sovereign Mode --- RESOURCES Illia Polosukhin https://x.com/ilblackdragon Near Protocol https://www.near.org/ --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures","meta_description":"What happens when powerful AI requires an ID, governments can restrict access by country, and your most private data flows through centralized systems? NE…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3447,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/bankless-357756/episodes/ai-surveillance-and-the-fight-for-digital-sovereignty-near-s-illia-polosukhin/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/bankless-357756/ai-surveillance-and-the-fight-for-digital-sovereignty-near-s-illia-polosukhin.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}