{"podcast":{"title":"Backpacker Radio","slug":"backpacker-radio-228477","podcast_index_feed_id":228477,"rss_url":"https://backpackerradio.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"https://www.backpackerradio.thetrek.co/","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/e/b/0/8/eb08194064f7a18fd959afa2a1bf1c87/backpacker_radio_art_2.png","author":"Zach Davis","episode_count":400,"summary":"From the Appalachian Trail to the Pacific Crest and everything in between. Backpacker Radio is a show all about the wonderful world that is thru-hiking and long distance backpacking. Co-hosts, Zach \"Badger\" Davis and Juliana \"Chaunce\" Chauncey muse on the backpacking life and the latest from the trail every other week. Topics include but are not limited to news, trail culture, interviews, gear, advice, and all you can eat buffets.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-02T20:18:44.295828+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/backpacker-radio-228477"},"episode":{"title":"Fired from the Forest Service by DOGE, Public Lands Advocacy, and Finding Joy in a World of Bad News with Liz Crandall (BPR #358)","slug":"fired-from-the-forest-service-by-doge-public-lands-advocacy-and-finding-joy-in-a-world-of-bad-news-with-liz-crandall-bpr-358","published_at":"2026-05-25T16:29:17+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/backpacker-radio-228477/fired-from-the-forest-service-by-doge-public-lands-advocacy-and-finding-joy-in-a-world-of-bad-news-with-liz-crandall-bpr-358","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/backpacker-radio-228477","url":"https://backpackerradio.libsyn.com/getting-fired-from-the-forest-service-by-doge-the-rangers-of-the-lost-park-podcast-and-finding-joy-in-a-world-of-bad-news-with-liz-crandall-bpr-358","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/claritaspod.com/measure/prfx.byspotify.com/e/mgln.ai/e/441/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/backpackerradio/BPR_Ep_358_-_Liz_Crandall.mp3?dest-id=635059","summary":"In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Liz Crandall, a former US Forest Service field ranger who was fired by DOGE last February and has since transitioned into advocacy, activism, and podcasting, serving as the host of Rangers of the Lost Park. In this one, Liz walks us through nine years of climbing the federal government's career ladder, from GS3 volunteer to permanent employee, and what it actually felt like to receive the phone call telling her it was over. She breaks down the DOGE firing process, the spam-looking emails that nobody believed were real, the Fork in the Road offer that most people didn't take, and what it looked like inside a Forest Service office where even the people who voted for the administration were crying. She also shares what it took to go from a person who was trained never to talk to the press to someone doing live CNN, the roadless rule and why she thinks rescinding it is a bad idea, her crown jewel podcast guest Ken Burns, and two pants-shitting stories from her hitchhiking days that she's been dreading telling us since she booked this. We wrap the show with hikers who discovered human remains in Vermont, the celebrity names we can never remember, how I butchered the boy who cried wolf, the triple crown of the worst gifts to give your kids, and an ALL TIME listener email and poop story. Topo Athletic: Use code \"TREK15TOPO\" at topoathletic.com . Gossamer Gear: Use code \"BACKPACKERRADIO\" for $20 off LT5 Trekking Poles at gossamergear.com . OnX Backcountry: Through Memorial Day, use code \"TREK70\" for 70% off at onxmaps.com [divider] Interview with Liz Crandall Rangers of the Lost Park Podcast Rangers of the Lost Park Instagram Liz's Instagram Time stamps & Questions 0…","meta_description":"In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Liz Crandall, a former US Forest Service f…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":10359,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/backpacker-radio-228477/episodes/fired-from-the-forest-service-by-doge-public-lands-advocacy-and-finding-joy-in-a-world-of-bad-news-with-liz-crandall-bpr-358/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/backpacker-radio-228477/fired-from-the-forest-service-by-doge-public-lands-advocacy-and-finding-joy-in-a-world-of-bad-news-with-liz-crandall-bpr-358.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}