{"podcast":{"title":"Awkward Silences","slug":"awkward-silences-627406","podcast_index_feed_id":627406,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/awkward-silences","website_url":"https://www.userinterviews.com","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/g7UkhKzzBgZTL69dYK59P3alwCwZpOkrhiUZT1HZITc/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzQ3NDE0LzE3MDE3/OTg5NDItYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.jpg","author":"User Interviews","episode_count":195,"summary":"Welcome to Awkward Silences by User Interviews, where we interview the people who interview people. Listen as we geek out on all things UX research, qualitative data, and the craft of understanding people to build better products and businesses. Hosted by Erin May and Carol Guest, VPs of growth/marketing and product at User Interviews. Take this survey and let us know what topics you want to hear next! userinterviews.com/awkwardsurvey","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/awkward-silences-627406"},"episode":{"title":"#188 - Why AI Can't Replace Qualitative Research with Sam Ladner of Workday","slug":"188-why-ai-can-t-replace-qualitative-research-with-sam-ladner-of-workday","published_at":"2026-04-28T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/awkward-silences-627406/188-why-ai-can-t-replace-qualitative-research-with-sam-ladner-of-workday","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/awkward-silences-627406","url":"https://podcast.userinterviews.com/episodes/188-why-ai-cant-replace-qualitative-research-with-sam-ladner-of-workday","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/a47c36e6/b52fa3b6.mp3","summary":"Erin May sits down with Sam Ladner, Senior Principal Researcher of Strategy at Workday, to explore the evolving role of AI in qualitative research. Sam brings a refreshingly balanced perspective on where AI can genuinely help researchers and where it fundamentally cannot replace human insight. Sam explains how AI has transformed labor-intensive tasks like transcription and closed coding, freeing researchers to focus on the deeper work of sense-making and understanding outliers. She emphasizes that while AI excels at mathematical correlation hunting, qualitative research is about unriddling complex human experiences that require thinking, feeling, and imagination. The conversation covers practical applications like using MAXQDA for AI-assisted coding, the importance of explaining every outlier in qualitative work, and why emotional storytelling must remain exclusively human territory. Highlights 03:09 Why machines can't replace human sense-making 08:47 Human moments AI cannot understand 12:00 Explaining outliers in qualitative coding 16:27 Building effective coding systems for AI 21:33 Getting AI to do closed coding properly 29:26 When to use AI for low stakes research 37:23 AI cannot substitute for qualitative research About Sam Sam Ladner (she/her) is a sociologist who helps teams innovate, design, and learn. She is the author of Practical Ethnography: A Guide to Doing Ethnography in The Private Sector and Mixed Methods: A Short Guide to Applied Mixed Methods Research . She has worked on dozens of advanced software projects at Microsoft, Amazon, and most recently Workday, where she worked as a Senior Principal Researcher studying the future of work. She is now an independent researcher and consultant, writing her third book, tentatively titled Practical Foresight: Str…","meta_description":"Erin May sits down with Sam Ladner, Senior Principal Researcher of Strategy at Workday, to explore the evolving role of AI in qualitative research. Sam br…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2969,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/awkward-silences-627406/episodes/188-why-ai-can-t-replace-qualitative-research-with-sam-ladner-of-workday/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/awkward-silences-627406/188-why-ai-can-t-replace-qualitative-research-with-sam-ladner-of-workday.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}