{"podcast":{"title":"Around the Circle | An Enneagram Channel","slug":"around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508","podcast_index_feed_id":86508,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/aroundthecircle/","website_url":"https://www.aroundthecircle.org/episodes/","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/a43f1443-610f-4ec4-b4c3-253d9ada0975/AN-ENNEAGRAM-PODCAST-63.jpg","author":"Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson","episode_count":376,"summary":"The Enneagram is a map of the human personality. It’s a tool for navigating relationships. It creates language for what motivates us and helps us look at the way we look at everything else. Most importantly the enneagram is a mirror; because sometimes you need help seeing yourself.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-22T06:19:16.945465+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508"},"episode":{"title":"The Space Between Wings | 3↔4, 4↔5, 5↔6","slug":"the-space-between-wings-3-4-4-5-5-6","published_at":"2026-05-28T13:35:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508/the-space-between-wings-3-4-4-5-5-6","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508","url":"https://www.aroundthecircle.org/episodes/","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/918f8d9a-f72a-4e8a-93a7-39bf8cc8899d.mp3","summary":"Connect with us at Aroundthecircle.org : HERE Katie Whitlock and Jeff Cook continue their dive into the shared space between adjacent Enneagram types, exploring the emotional and psychological overlap between Threes and Fours, Fours and Fives, and Fives and Sixes. Along the way they discuss authenticity, significance, narcissism, objectivity and subjectivity, emotional processing, rumination, preparation, and the strange intimacy that can emerge between neighboring types. This conversation moves beyond simple wing theory and into the deeper architecture of the Enneagram itself: why certain types sit next to each other, what they share beneath the surface, and how understanding those shared dynamics can deepen our understanding of motivation, emotion, and personality structure. Topics include: Why Threes and Fours both long to leave an impact The tension between authenticity and adaptation Rumination, analysis, and the private inner world of Fours and Fives Whether feelings can ever be “objective” Why Fives and Sixes both prepare against uncertainty Emotional data, problem solving, and internal processing The hidden strengths shared between neighboring types This episode originally aired on Patreon. To join future type panels, discussions, and bonus conversations, visit aroundthecircle.org.","meta_description":"Connect with us at Aroundthecircle.org : HERE Katie Whitlock and Jeff Cook continue their dive into the shared space between adjacent Enneagram types, exp…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2600,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508/episodes/the-space-between-wings-3-4-4-5-5-6/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508/the-space-between-wings-3-4-4-5-5-6.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}