{"podcast":{"title":"Around the Circle | An Enneagram Channel","slug":"around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508","podcast_index_feed_id":86508,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/aroundthecircle/","website_url":"https://www.aroundthecircle.org/episodes/","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/a43f1443-610f-4ec4-b4c3-253d9ada0975/AN-ENNEAGRAM-PODCAST-63.jpg","author":"Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson","episode_count":376,"summary":"The Enneagram is a map of the human personality. It’s a tool for navigating relationships. It creates language for what motivates us and helps us look at the way we look at everything else. Most importantly the enneagram is a mirror; because sometimes you need help seeing yourself.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-22T06:19:16.945465+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508"},"episode":{"title":"Enneagram Workshop | 4s & 5s","slug":"enneagram-workshop-4s-5s","published_at":"2026-04-08T13:20:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508/enneagram-workshop-4s-5s","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508","url":"https://www.aroundthecircle.org/episodes/","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5eca97cc-3d35-4928-85fa-679a8ebc92a3.mp3","summary":"Sign up for our April 11 Workshop : HERE This is a recording of our Second Saturday Workshop from March. Our next Second Saturday workshop is April 11, where we’ll be focusing on Sixes and Sevens. You can find all the details and sign up at AroundtheCircle.org. ___ We moved into the inner world of Enneagram Fours and Fives, exploring what each type fears, avoids, and protects. For Fours, the conversation centers on the fear of insignificance, the pull of envy, and the deep longing to be seen and understood. What emerges is a powerful insight: envy isn’t just comparison—it can become a form of protection, keeping Fours in longing rather than risking rejection through real action and expression. As the conversation shifts to Fives, the focus turns to competency, energy, and the instinct to withhold. Fives reflect on their relationship to time, knowledge, and emotional exposure—revealing how easily life can be observed, analyzed, and prepared for, rather than fully entered. Their connection to need, dependence, and self-sufficiency brings a different angle on withdrawal, one rooted not in identity, but in resources. Together, this session offers a grounded and honest look at two withdrawn types and what it takes to move toward fuller participation in life.","meta_description":"Sign up for our April 11 Workshop : HERE This is a recording of our Second Saturday Workshop from March. Our next Second Saturday workshop is April 11, wh…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":6627,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508/episodes/enneagram-workshop-4s-5s/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508/enneagram-workshop-4s-5s.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}