{"podcast":{"title":"Animal Behavior Conversations: The Podcast of The ABMA","slug":"animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377","podcast_index_feed_id":6055377,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/d9199a04/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.theabma.org","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo/36323337/36323337-1676174412970-6d94372dec44f.jpg","author":"Shane Gorbett, Board of Directors, The Animal Behavior Management Alliance","episode_count":83,"summary":"The Animal Behavior Management Alliance (ABMA) strives to spread knowledge throughout the animal care field to help enhance animal care through operant conditioning. Each episode we will discuss a topic in the world of animal care and break down the science of behavior change. To achieve this, the podcast’s host, Shane Gorbett, will interview fellow animal care professionals and experts from across the world to discuss all things training, behavior, enrichment, welfare, and much more! This podcast will be a great resource for all trainers. Let's talk some training and banter about behavior!","last_synced_at":"2026-09-11T20:18:00.138231+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377"},"episode":{"title":"79: Creating Dialogue when Training with Multiple Trainers with Amy Schilz, Cheyenne Mountain Zoo & International Center for the Care and Conservation of Giraffes","slug":"79-creating-dialogue-when-training-with-multiple-trainers-with-amy-schilz-cheyenne-mountain-zoo-international-center-for-the-care-and-conservation-of-giraffes","published_at":"2026-07-10T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/79-creating-dialogue-when-training-with-multiple-trainers-with-amy-schilz-cheyenne-mountain-zoo-international-center-for-the-care-and-conservation-of-giraffes","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theabmapodcast/episodes/79-Creating-Dialogue-when-Training-with-Multiple-Trainers-with-Amy-Schilz--Cheyenne-Mountain-Zoo--International-Center-for-the-Care-and-Conservation-of-Giraffes-e3lrhp9","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/d9199a04/podcast/play/122586345/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-9%2F8b510b95-a66c-de58-c273-9de3eed6e9fb.mp3","summary":"This episode Amy Schilz, Cheyenne Mountain Zoo & International Center for the Care and Conservation of Giraffes, provides some great learning and advice for creating a three way dialogue when training with multiple trainers. This podcast is a companion to Amy’s presentation at the 2026 ABMA-IAATE annual conference titled “Three Way Communication: Creating Clear Contingencies for Learners Working with Multiple Trainers”. Amy starts the episode by discussing the three way dialogue when training with multiple trainers and how each party is providing cues. The discussion continues with information on how to give control to the animal to start, stop, and continue and the adjustments that we can, and should be making, after an animal says “no”. Finally, Amy explains advice for keeping criterion consistent and effectively planning and discussing all of the various considerations when training with multiple trainers. Stay tuned in for Amy’s "Training Tale" about the success of one of the newer trainers at Cheyenne Mountain Zoo.! For questions or suggestions about the podcast email ⁠ ⁠ abc@theabma.org ⁠ ⁠ and to reach Amy email ⁠ giraffe@cmzoo.org . For more information on the International Center for the Care and Conservation of Giraffes visit these links: Workshops: https://giraffecenter.cmzoo.org/Workshops Conferences: https://giraffecenter.cmzoo.org/Conferences "How To" video shorts: https://giraffecenter.cmzoo.org/Video-Shorts 3:00 Introduction to Amy Schilz 8:00 International Center for the Care and Conservation of Giraffes 14:50 Three Way Communication when training with multiple trainers 18:40 Advice for starting to train with multiple trainers 21:00 How are each party providing cues 30:00 Adjusting what we are doing after an animal says “no” 33:…","meta_description":"This episode Amy Schilz, Cheyenne Mountain Zoo & International Center for the Care and Conservation of Giraffes, provides some great learning and advi…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3540,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/episodes/79-creating-dialogue-when-training-with-multiple-trainers-with-amy-schilz-cheyenne-mountain-zoo-international-center-for-the-care-and-conservation-of-giraffes/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/79-creating-dialogue-when-training-with-multiple-trainers-with-amy-schilz-cheyenne-mountain-zoo-international-center-for-the-care-and-conservation-of-giraffes.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}