{"podcast":{"title":"Animal Behavior Conversations: The Podcast of The ABMA","slug":"animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377","podcast_index_feed_id":6055377,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/d9199a04/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.theabma.org","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo/36323337/36323337-1676174412970-6d94372dec44f.jpg","author":"Shane Gorbett, Board of Directors, The Animal Behavior Management Alliance","episode_count":83,"summary":"The Animal Behavior Management Alliance (ABMA) strives to spread knowledge throughout the animal care field to help enhance animal care through operant conditioning. Each episode we will discuss a topic in the world of animal care and break down the science of behavior change. To achieve this, the podcast’s host, Shane Gorbett, will interview fellow animal care professionals and experts from across the world to discuss all things training, behavior, enrichment, welfare, and much more! This podcast will be a great resource for all trainers. Let's talk some training and banter about behavior!","last_synced_at":"2026-09-11T20:18:00.138231+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377"},"episode":{"title":"70: Chaining & Behavior Chains with Justin Garner, Busch Gardens Tampa Bay","slug":"70-chaining-behavior-chains-with-justin-garner-busch-gardens-tampa-bay","published_at":"2025-08-27T12:34:55+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/70-chaining-behavior-chains-with-justin-garner-busch-gardens-tampa-bay","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theabmapodcast/episodes/70-Chaining--Behavior-Chains-with-Justin-Garner--Busch-Gardens-Tampa-Bay-e37crjh","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/d9199a04/podcast/play/107424817/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-7-27%2Fe9d5e687-adf5-40b4-5424-ffe3399dc8c7.mp3","summary":"This episode Justin Garner, Busch Gardens Tampa Bay, provides some great learning on behavior chains and the process of chaining. Justin starts by breaking down the process of chaining while giving practical application examples. The discussion then dives into how a behavior chain works and dissects what it means for each behavior in the chain to serve as both a discriminative stimulus and a conditioned reinforcer. Justin then explains the difference between backward and forward chaining and why it is recommended to utilize backward chaining. The discussion ends with advice on preventing behavior chain breakdown and an explanation on the difference between shaping and chaining. Stay tuned in for Justin’s "Training Tale" about a team and a mob of macropods reaching new heights in training. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email ⁠abc@theabma.org⁠ For more information on the ABMA’s virtual conference visit this link: https://www.theabma.org/virtual-conference To submit an abstract for the ABMA 2026 annual conference visit this link: https://www.theabma.org/abma-annual-conference To complete the podcast feedback survey visit this link: ⁠⁠https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/sv/Rspt0Bk/abcpodcast2025⁠⁠ 1:30 Upcoming ABMA offerings 5:35 Definition and practical application of chaining and behavior chains 15:30 Backward chaining 22:35 Forward chaining 26:15 Recommendation to utilize backward chaining 31:15 Advice on preventing behavior chain breakdowns 33:50 The difference between chaining and shaping 38:50 “Training Tales”","meta_description":"This episode Justin Garner, Busch Gardens Tampa Bay, provides some great learning on behavior chains and the process of chaining. Justin starts by breakin…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2566,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/episodes/70-chaining-behavior-chains-with-justin-garner-busch-gardens-tampa-bay/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/70-chaining-behavior-chains-with-justin-garner-busch-gardens-tampa-bay.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}