{"podcast":{"title":"Animal Behavior Conversations: The Podcast of The ABMA","slug":"animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377","podcast_index_feed_id":6055377,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/d9199a04/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.theabma.org","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo/36323337/36323337-1676174412970-6d94372dec44f.jpg","author":"Shane Gorbett, Board of Directors, The Animal Behavior Management Alliance","episode_count":83,"summary":"The Animal Behavior Management Alliance (ABMA) strives to spread knowledge throughout the animal care field to help enhance animal care through operant conditioning. Each episode we will discuss a topic in the world of animal care and break down the science of behavior change. To achieve this, the podcast’s host, Shane Gorbett, will interview fellow animal care professionals and experts from across the world to discuss all things training, behavior, enrichment, welfare, and much more! This podcast will be a great resource for all trainers. Let's talk some training and banter about behavior!","last_synced_at":"2026-09-11T20:18:00.138231+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377"},"episode":{"title":"69: Changing Conditions to Change Motivation - Part 2 with Wouter Stellaard, Behavior 360 & The Kuzo Group","slug":"69-changing-conditions-to-change-motivation-part-2-with-wouter-stellaard-behavior-360-the-kuzo-group","published_at":"2025-08-07T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/69-changing-conditions-to-change-motivation-part-2-with-wouter-stellaard-behavior-360-the-kuzo-group","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theabmapodcast/episodes/69-Changing-Conditions-to-Change-Motivation---Part-2-with-Wouter-Stellaard--Behavior-360--The-Kuzo-Group-e36i45g","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/d9199a04/podcast/play/106548848/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-7-7%2Fc59f24c4-e0b5-b843-d826-708fc0dbb4a6.mp3","summary":"This episode wraps up (for now) the two episode arc discussing how changing conditions can change motivation with Wouter Stellaard, Behavior 360 and the Kuzo Group. Before listening to this episode, please take the time to listen to Part 1 of this topic which is episode 68 of the podcast. This episode is a direct continuation of Episode 68 in which Wouter discusses a multitude of ways in which we can change conditions to change motivation without utilizing diet/weight management. Wouter discusses strategies if you have come to “the last stop” and determined that the best decision is using food to change motivation. Topics covered include considerations on safety, non-food reinforcers, using all available resources, timing, specific situations, and the importance of record keeping and observations. The episode ends on a reminder that behavior and learning itself is reinforcing and how we should be adding things, not removing them from animals’ lives and behavioral repitoires. Stay tuned in for Wouter’s inspiring “Training Tale” about training the next generation of animal care givers. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email ⁠abc@theabma.org⁠ and to contact Wouter email wstellaard@behavior360.com or wouters@thekuzogroup.com For more information and to register for the 2025 ABMA virtual conference visit this link: https://www.theabma.org/virtual-conference To complete the podcast feedback survey visit this link: ⁠⁠https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/sv/Rspt0Bk/abcpodcast2025⁠⁠ Let's talk some training and banter about behavior! 1:40 New ABMA Virtual Conference + Behavior Month Information 3:50 Short recap of Episode 68 - Part 1 10:25 Shifting from Diet/Weight Management to Behavior Management 14:05 Non-Food Reinforcers 17:50 The Last Stop: Using Food to Chang…","meta_description":"This episode wraps up (for now) the two episode arc discussing how changing conditions can change motivation with Wouter Stellaard, Behavior 360 and the K…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3595,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/episodes/69-changing-conditions-to-change-motivation-part-2-with-wouter-stellaard-behavior-360-the-kuzo-group/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/69-changing-conditions-to-change-motivation-part-2-with-wouter-stellaard-behavior-360-the-kuzo-group.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}