{"podcast":{"title":"Animal Behavior Conversations: The Podcast of The ABMA","slug":"animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377","podcast_index_feed_id":6055377,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/d9199a04/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.theabma.org","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo/36323337/36323337-1676174412970-6d94372dec44f.jpg","author":"Shane Gorbett, Board of Directors, The Animal Behavior Management Alliance","episode_count":83,"summary":"The Animal Behavior Management Alliance (ABMA) strives to spread knowledge throughout the animal care field to help enhance animal care through operant conditioning. Each episode we will discuss a topic in the world of animal care and break down the science of behavior change. To achieve this, the podcast’s host, Shane Gorbett, will interview fellow animal care professionals and experts from across the world to discuss all things training, behavior, enrichment, welfare, and much more! This podcast will be a great resource for all trainers. Let's talk some training and banter about behavior!","last_synced_at":"2026-09-11T20:18:00.138231+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377"},"episode":{"title":"68: Changing Conditions to Change Motivation - Part 1 with Wouter Stellaard, Behavior 360 & The Kuzo Group","slug":"68-changing-conditions-to-change-motivation-part-1-with-wouter-stellaard-behavior-360-the-kuzo-group","published_at":"2025-07-24T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/68-changing-conditions-to-change-motivation-part-1-with-wouter-stellaard-behavior-360-the-kuzo-group","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theabmapodcast/episodes/68-Changing-Conditions-to-Change-Motivation---Part-1-with-Wouter-Stellaard--Behavior-360--The-Kuzo-Group-e35usef","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/d9199a04/podcast/play/105918351/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-6-24%2F252b06eb-5a91-3513-103d-b2a6611f3b4d.mp3","summary":"This episode begins a two episode arc discussing how changing conditions can change motivation with Wouter Stellaard, Behavior 360 and the Kuzo Group. In this episode Wouter discusses the many, and not exclusive, ways in which we can change conditions to change motivation that do not involve diet management. The episode begins by discussing motivation as a construct and a label and then breaking down motivating operations and setting events. Wouter educates on the many ways in which we can alter antecedents and the environment in order to effect motivation. Additionally, Wouter encourages listeners to evaluate ourselves and our shaping plans. Stay tuned in for Wouter’s “Training Tale” about getting into the weeds of training Calm Attentive Behaviors (CAB) with wolves at Bearizona. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email ⁠abc@theabma.org⁠ and to contact Wouter email wstellaard@behavior360.com or wouters@thekuzogroup.com For more information and to register for the ABMA virtual courses visit this link: ⁠⁠https://www.theabma.org/behavior-management-courses⁠⁠ To complete the podcast feedback survey visit this link: ⁠⁠https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/sv/Rspt0Bk/abcpodcast2025⁠⁠ Let's talk some training and banter about behavior! 3:50 Introduction to Wouter Stellaard 9:40 A jumping off point for a discussion 11:35 Change from weight management mindset to behavior management mindset 15:10 Definition of Motivation 18:50 Motivation as a label 22:55 Motivation and the Study of One in One Moment 26:20 Definition of Motivating Operations and Setting Events 29:20 Relationship and Trust 30:40 Variety of reinforcers 31:10 Variety of asked behaviors, rate of reinforcement 33:20 Shifting the mindset to what we can do and away from the animal isn’t motivated 37:10 Antece…","meta_description":"This episode begins a two episode arc discussing how changing conditions can change motivation with Wouter Stellaard, Behavior 360 and the Kuzo Group. 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