{"podcast":{"title":"Animal Behavior Conversations: The Podcast of The ABMA","slug":"animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377","podcast_index_feed_id":6055377,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/d9199a04/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.theabma.org","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo/36323337/36323337-1676174412970-6d94372dec44f.jpg","author":"Shane Gorbett, Board of Directors, The Animal Behavior Management Alliance","episode_count":83,"summary":"The Animal Behavior Management Alliance (ABMA) strives to spread knowledge throughout the animal care field to help enhance animal care through operant conditioning. Each episode we will discuss a topic in the world of animal care and break down the science of behavior change. To achieve this, the podcast’s host, Shane Gorbett, will interview fellow animal care professionals and experts from across the world to discuss all things training, behavior, enrichment, welfare, and much more! This podcast will be a great resource for all trainers. Let's talk some training and banter about behavior!","last_synced_at":"2026-09-11T20:18:00.138231+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377"},"episode":{"title":"63: Training on the Continuum: Moving Away from Coercion and Towards Genuine Choice with Steve Martin, Natural Encounters, Inc.","slug":"63-training-on-the-continuum-moving-away-from-coercion-and-towards-genuine-choice-with-steve-martin-natural-encounters-inc","published_at":"2025-04-16T09:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/63-training-on-the-continuum-moving-away-from-coercion-and-towards-genuine-choice-with-steve-martin-natural-encounters-inc","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theabmapodcast/episodes/63-Training-on-the-Continuum-Moving-Away-from-Coercion-and-Towards-Genuine-Choice-with-Steve-Martin--Natural-Encounters--Inc-e31jkej","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/d9199a04/podcast/play/101355411/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-3-16%2Ff7e9f87d-caeb-e53e-441c-7482d45e2042.mp3","summary":"This episode Steve Martin, President and CEO of Natural Encounters, Inc., discusses training on a continuum by moving away from coercion and towards genuine choice. Steve starts the episode by giving a review of the concepts of choice and… control with some practical examples. The discussion then turns to breaking down behavioral degrees of freedom, genuine choice, and coercion with many more great practical examples. The episode ends with Steve outlining that real-world animal training requires us to train on the continuum but always striving towards providing genuine choice in order to enhance an animal’s welfare. Stay tuned in for Steve’s motivation and emotional "Training Tale" about a trainer from a show at the Singapore Zoo. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email ⁠abc@theabma.org⁠ and to contact Steve email s.martin@naturalencounters.com⁠ Let's talk some training and banter about behavior! 3:45 Introduction to Steve Martin 9:25 Review of Choice and… Control 18:55 Degrees of Behavioral Freedom 28:20 Free Choice 30:35 Genuine Choice 44:05 Coercion 56:15 Training on the Continuum 1:04:15 “Training Tales”","meta_description":"This episode Steve Martin, President and CEO of Natural Encounters, Inc., discusses training on a continuum by moving away from coercion and towards genui…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4308,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/episodes/63-training-on-the-continuum-moving-away-from-coercion-and-towards-genuine-choice-with-steve-martin-natural-encounters-inc/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/63-training-on-the-continuum-moving-away-from-coercion-and-towards-genuine-choice-with-steve-martin-natural-encounters-inc.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}