{"podcast":{"title":"American Thought Leaders","slug":"american-thought-leaders-1056274","podcast_index_feed_id":1056274,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/american-thought-leaders/","website_url":"https://www.theepochtimes.com/podcasts","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/ab93518e-950a-4751-832e-480566fa5ad9/49nazhCbYD-76srv2uuWdJ8Z.jpg","author":"The Epoch Times","episode_count":200,"summary":"At a time when our nation is portrayed as increasingly polarized, media often ignore viewpoints and stories that are worthy of attention. American Thought Leaders, hosted by The Epoch Times Senior Editor Jan Jekielek, features in-depth discussions with some of America’s most influential thought leaders on pertinent issues facing our nation today.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-14T20:19:59.941877+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-thought-leaders-1056274"},"episode":{"title":"Why 28- and 29-Year-Olds Are Disappearing From China’s Uyghur Concentration Camps | Ethan Gutmann","slug":"why-28-and-29-year-olds-are-disappearing-from-china-s-uyghur-concentration-camps-ethan-gutmann","published_at":"2026-04-11T21:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-thought-leaders-1056274/why-28-and-29-year-olds-are-disappearing-from-china-s-uyghur-concentration-camps-ethan-gutmann","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-thought-leaders-1056274","url":"https://www.theepochtimes.com/podcasts","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/05a3b3f4-a69d-41df-8e7b-d0b17fed07d8.mp3","summary":"For two decades, investigative journalist Ethan Gutmann has been researching how the Chinese Communist Party secretly harvests the organs of prisoners of conscience and kills them in the process. He authored the groundbreaking 2014 work “The Slaughter” and, more recently, “The Xinjiang Procedure.” In his latest book, he gathers evidence of how the regime—which has long targeted Falun Gong practitioners for their organs—is now exploiting captive Uyghurs for this same macabre industry. Gutmann traveled to Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, and Turkey to interview dozens of Uyghurs and Kazaks who had managed to escape after being imprisoned in camps in Xinjiang, China, also known as East Turkestan. Many spoke to him at great personal risk to themselves and their loved ones. What they revealed to him was nothing short of horrific. A central witness named “Samal” described working in one of four medical labs located several stories below the concentration camp. One of the clinics—the one she worked in—was used for intestinal removal. “The other three clinics were there to remove organs. You couldn’t see them, but occasionally the door would open. You‘d see somebody handling a kidney, a liver, and so forth. Every day that she worked there … there’d be eight or nine bodies. Sometimes it was as many as 20,” Gutmann said. During his research, Gutmann realized a disturbing pattern. Many of those who disappeared in the middle of the night from the camps were typically 28 or 29 years old. He believes the CCP has made this age demographic its primary target for forced organ harvesting. “You are at the peak of your health. At that point, your organs have stopped growing,” Gutmann says. In this episode, he breaks down the devastating evidence he’s uncovered—and the failu…","meta_description":"For two decades, investigative journalist Ethan Gutmann has been researching how the Chinese Communist Party secretly harvests the organs of prisoners of…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3517,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/american-thought-leaders-1056274/episodes/why-28-and-29-year-olds-are-disappearing-from-china-s-uyghur-concentration-camps-ethan-gutmann/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-thought-leaders-1056274/why-28-and-29-year-olds-are-disappearing-from-china-s-uyghur-concentration-camps-ethan-gutmann.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}