{"podcast":{"title":"American Thought Leaders","slug":"american-thought-leaders-1056274","podcast_index_feed_id":1056274,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/american-thought-leaders/","website_url":"https://www.theepochtimes.com/podcasts","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/ab93518e-950a-4751-832e-480566fa5ad9/49nazhCbYD-76srv2uuWdJ8Z.jpg","author":"The Epoch Times","episode_count":200,"summary":"At a time when our nation is portrayed as increasingly polarized, media often ignore viewpoints and stories that are worthy of attention. American Thought Leaders, hosted by The Epoch Times Senior Editor Jan Jekielek, features in-depth discussions with some of America’s most influential thought leaders on pertinent issues facing our nation today.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-20T20:18:37.336731+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-thought-leaders-1056274"},"episode":{"title":"Here’s What They Hid in Wuhan | Matt Ridley","slug":"here-s-what-they-hid-in-wuhan-matt-ridley","published_at":"2026-06-30T21:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-thought-leaders-1056274/here-s-what-they-hid-in-wuhan-matt-ridley","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-thought-leaders-1056274","url":"https://www.theepochtimes.com/podcasts","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f25fadc3-f721-4a56-af48-e86e14485651.mp3","summary":"💰Protect your wealth with precious metals! Call American Hartford Gold today & get up to $20,000 in free silver on your 1st order! Call 855-862-3377 or text AMERICAN to 65532 or click here: https://ept.ms/ATL-AHG It’s been over six years since the COVID-19 pandemic began, yet much of the scientific establishment still seems unwilling to acknowledge or openly debate where this virus came from. In this episode, Matt Ridley, co-author of “Viral,” breaks down the significance of newly declassified documents released by Homeland Security Secretary Tulsi Gabbard and the evidence of a coordinated cover-up of COVID-19’s origins. Ridley delves into a key paper, “The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2,” published by Nature Medicine, exposing how the authors themselves believed that a lab leak was a likely possibility while publicly pushing the opposite narrative. Troubling questions arise: Why hasn’t the international community held China accountable for what happened at the Wuhan lab? Why is America so attentive to cybersecurity, but completely blind to biosecurity? And why are there such close ties between Western scientific research and Chinese dual-purpose facilities like the lab in Wuhan? Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.","meta_description":"💰Protect your wealth with precious metals! Call American Hartford Gold today & get up to $20,000 in free silver on your 1st order! Call 855-862-3377 o…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2824,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/american-thought-leaders-1056274/episodes/here-s-what-they-hid-in-wuhan-matt-ridley/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-thought-leaders-1056274/here-s-what-they-hid-in-wuhan-matt-ridley.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}