{"podcast":{"title":"AJ Osborne Podcast","slug":"aj-osborne-podcast-1040049","podcast_index_feed_id":1040049,"rss_url":"https://app.kajabi.com/podcasts/2147504299/feed","website_url":"https://www.ajosborne.com/podcasts/aj-osborne-podcast","image_url":"https://kajabi-storefronts-production.kajabi-cdn.com/kajabi-storefronts-production/file-uploads/site/2147569884/podcasts/b266bd-c3c6-aef-7004-4226ca1f75c4_062524_AJO_Podcast_Thumbnail_GFX_2_v3.png","author":"AJ Osborne","episode_count":301,"summary":"Welcome to the AJ Osborne Podcast. Twice a month, I’ll sit down with guests or fly solo to share incredible stories, give my take on today’s economy, and show you how to build wealth the right way. We bring high-value guests - solely for the purpose of long-form, high-impact discussions. By working together, we can build a better future for ourselves and our families. Find our video podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoaCszL7eN9T7EixaJgL49WTLsT-CWLD1","last_synced_at":"2026-06-19T00:20:10.142082+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/aj-osborne-podcast-1040049"},"episode":{"title":"47. She Predicted a Depression in 2030. Now She’s Doubling Down. w/Economist Lauren Saidel-Baker","slug":"47-she-predicted-a-depression-in-2030-now-she-s-doubling-down-w-economist-lauren-saidel-baker","published_at":"2026-06-18T13:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/aj-osborne-podcast-1040049/47-she-predicted-a-depression-in-2030-now-she-s-doubling-down-w-economist-lauren-saidel-baker","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/aj-osborne-podcast-1040049","url":"https://www.ajosborne.com/podcasts/aj-osborne-podcast/episodes/2149218328","audio_url":"https://app.kajabi.com/podcasts/medias/2149218328.mp3","summary":"  The next great depression is closer than you think. For years, Lauren Saidel-Baker , economist at ITR Economics, has predicted an almost unavoidable economic depression , specifically for the United States. We last spoke to her about this in January 2025, and now she’s back—but this time, she’s even more convinced of our path to the 2030s great depression.    Major signals are keeping us from swerving this colossal event. The Fed is trapped —lowering rates to save our government budget could trigger inflation, again. Social problems are growing— the wealth gap is widening , and those at the bottom can barely afford necessities. And the final linchpin—an aging baby boomer population that will take massive amounts of resources , without giving much in return.   We’ve seen problems like this occur in other countries—France and Japan, to name a couple—but nothing on the size of the American economy. So what’s coming next? Are we back to a 2008-style market selloff where asset prices tank? Can AI step in to save us from some of these dangers that a younger workforce can’t solve, and who wins and loses when the shoe drops?   Insights from today’s episode:  The road to the next great depression : Why 2030 looks like it’s unavoidable  The “linchpin” that could set off the domino effect and massively change the economy  How to win in the next great depression and what to do to start preparing now The Fed’s “trap” and how they’ll lose control of the economy  Why Lauren thinks many people are wrong about AI (and what effect it will really have) __________ ITR Economics:   https://hubs.la/Q04h6kdc0   Check out Lauren's previous podcast episode!- https://www.ajosborne.com/podcasts/aj-osborne-podcast/episodes/2148970950 &…","meta_description":"The next great depression is closer than you think. For years, Lauren Saidel-Baker , economist at ITR Economics, has predicted an almost unavoidabl…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3425,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/aj-osborne-podcast-1040049/episodes/47-she-predicted-a-depression-in-2030-now-she-s-doubling-down-w-economist-lauren-saidel-baker/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/aj-osborne-podcast-1040049/47-she-predicted-a-depression-in-2030-now-she-s-doubling-down-w-economist-lauren-saidel-baker.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}