{"podcast":{"title":"AI & I","slug":"ai-i-6714658","podcast_index_feed_id":6714658,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/how-do-you-use-chatgpt","website_url":"https://every.to/","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/_unLmYM9CjKDeRXJOn7gFK3H6X2dny3KX6lhn0gohkg/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8yNDM2/YzU4NDNmYTQxNTJh/MTEzYjE4YmJmYTg5/ODY1NS5wbmc.jpg","author":"Dan Shipper","episode_count":121,"summary":"Learn how the smartest people in the world are using AI to think, create, and relate. Each week I interview founders, filmmakers, writers, investors, and others about how they use AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Midjourney in their work and in their lives. We screen-share through their historical chats and then experiment with AI live on the show. Join us to discover how AI is changing how we think about our world—and ourselves. For more essays, interviews, and experiments at the forefront of AI: https://every.to/chain-of-thought?sort=newest.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-09T04:21:56.534028+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-i-6714658"},"episode":{"title":"We Made a Document Editor Where Humans and AI Work Side by Side","slug":"we-made-a-document-editor-where-humans-and-ai-work-side-by-side","published_at":"2026-03-11T14:47:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-i-6714658/we-made-a-document-editor-where-humans-and-ai-work-side-by-side","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-i-6714658","url":"https://share.transistor.fm/s/e4ec8388","audio_url":"https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/media.transistor.fm/e4ec8388/810f1a6f.mp3","summary":"Every has unveiled a new product, built by CEO Dan Shipper . It's called Proof , a free, open-source, live collaborative document editor built for humans and AI agents to work in together. Proof started as a Mac app designed to show the provenance of AI-written text—purple for AI, green for human. But when Shipper rebuilt it as a web app with real-time collaboration, something clicked. Suddenly, everyone at Every was using it for everything from planning docs, to creative writing and even daily to-do lists. The team realized they needed a lightweight space where their OpenClaw agents and humans could co-author documents and leave comments. In this special episode, Shipper is joined by Every chief operating officer Brandon Gell , Cora general manager Kieran Klaassen , and head of growth Austin Tedesco to demo Proof live and share how it's changed the way they work. Brandon walks through a loop where his Codex agent writes a plan, Dan's personal Claw R2-C2 reviews it, and the humans just steer. Austin explains how he uses Proof to write a weekly food newsletter, texting ideas to his Claw on runs and watching an outline take shape. And Kieran makes the case that Proof's power is its lightness—just a link you can hand to any agent or colleague. The conversation covers what \"agent native\" means in practice, why AX (agent experience) matters as much as UX (user experience), what happens when 10 agents edit one document at the same time, and why some writing is now better read by an AI than a human. If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share! Want even more? Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt . It's usually only for paying subscribers, but yo…","meta_description":"Every has unveiled a new product, built by CEO Dan Shipper . It's called Proof , a free, open-source, live collaborative document editor built for humans…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2678,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/ai-i-6714658/episodes/we-made-a-document-editor-where-humans-and-ai-work-side-by-side/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-i-6714658/we-made-a-document-editor-where-humans-and-ai-work-side-by-side.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}