{"podcast":{"title":"AI & I","slug":"ai-i-6714658","podcast_index_feed_id":6714658,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/how-do-you-use-chatgpt","website_url":"https://every.to/","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/_unLmYM9CjKDeRXJOn7gFK3H6X2dny3KX6lhn0gohkg/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8yNDM2/YzU4NDNmYTQxNTJh/MTEzYjE4YmJmYTg5/ODY1NS5wbmc.jpg","author":"Dan Shipper","episode_count":121,"summary":"Learn how the smartest people in the world are using AI to think, create, and relate. Each week I interview founders, filmmakers, writers, investors, and others about how they use AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Midjourney in their work and in their lives. We screen-share through their historical chats and then experiment with AI live on the show. Join us to discover how AI is changing how we think about our world—and ourselves. For more essays, interviews, and experiments at the forefront of AI: https://every.to/chain-of-thought?sort=newest.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-09T04:21:56.534028+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-i-6714658"},"episode":{"title":"How to Build an Agent-native Product | Mike Krieger","slug":"how-to-build-an-agent-native-product-mike-krieger","published_at":"2026-03-25T15:16:39+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-i-6714658/how-to-build-an-agent-native-product-mike-krieger","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-i-6714658","url":"https://share.transistor.fm/s/4909ea3d","audio_url":"https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/media.transistor.fm/4909ea3d/b6799932.mp3","summary":"Mike Krieger built one of the most consequential consumer apps of the last two decades as cofounder of Instagram. He is now at the frontier of determining what makes a breakout AI-native product as co-lead of Anthropic Labs. Dan Shipper talked with Krieger for Every’s AI & I about how his experience creating Instagram shapes how he thinks about building with AI, including what can be sped up and what remains stubbornly time-intensive. If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share! To hear more from Dan Shipper: Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper Download Grammarly for FREE at grammarly.com Timestamps Introduction: 00:01:39 What's gotten easier—and what hasn't—about building products in the age of AI: 00:02:33 Why vibe coding creates \"indoor trees\": 00:05:00 How rewrites have become a normal part of the development process: 00:09:00 What \"agent native\" product design means: 00:11:39 How Mike's labs team is structured and the cofounder model: 00:24:27 The best signal for a product bet is someone with \"break through walls\" conviction: 00:29:33 Navigating enterprise customers while keeping pace with rapid AI change: 00:38:51 OpenClaw, personal agents, and the product question defining 2026: 00:40:54 Links to resources mentioned in the episode: Mike Krieger: https://x.com/mikeyk Agent-native architecture: https://every.to/guides/agent-native","meta_description":"Mike Krieger built one of the most consequential consumer apps of the last two decades as cofounder of Instagram. He is now at the frontier of determining…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2910,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/ai-i-6714658/episodes/how-to-build-an-agent-native-product-mike-krieger/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-i-6714658/how-to-build-an-agent-native-product-mike-krieger.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}